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I have only seen one poster comment on this- they have said that the 3”/2.25” collars did not impact their ride quality.

I would like to hear others chime in on that that have done it. As well as if the 2.25/1.5” collars are sufficient to wheel moderate + with 37s.

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I have 37s on my stock WT with the HOSS 3.0. No rubbing(would definitely rub offroad) but my perch collars are on the way.
 

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17x8.5 wheel, 0 offset, 37x12.5x17 Toyo R/T Trail. I fit that setup on my 23 Wildtrak by only installing the JKS max clearance kit and getting an alignment done. No rubbing, full articulation. Everything was stuffed in there pretty tight.

I added the RPG collars for the extra height and to add some space in the wheel well. To me it looked to stuffed. I did 2.25 in front, 1.5 in rear. It slightly impacted ride quality by stiffening the ride. You feel a lot more minor bumps and noticeable difference when going over speed bumps, drive entrances, etc.

It doesn’t impact enough that it’s uncomfortable, just slightly noticeable.

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I have 37s on my stock WT with the HOSS 3.0. No rubbing(would definitely rub offroad) but my perch collars are on the way.
Thank you. I will await your field report!
 
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17x8.5 wheel, 0 offset, 37x12.5x17 Toyo R/T Trail. I fit that setup on my 23 Wildtrak by only installing the JKS max clearance kit and getting an alignment done. No rubbing, full articulation. Everything was stuffed in there pretty tight.

I added the RPG collars for the extra height and to add some space in the wheel well. To me it looked to stuffed. I did 2.25 in front, 1.5 in rear. It slightly impacted ride quality by stiffening the ride. You feel a lot more minor bumps and noticeable difference when going over speed bumps, drive entrances, etc.

It doesn’t impact enough that it’s uncomfortable, just slightly noticeable.

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Awesomeness! So first off the Bronco looks GOOOOD! Nice job.

Secondly- thank you! This is extremely helpful information. I’ve got a few follow on questions that I think a lot of Bronco6G folks are wondering:

1) Have you had this beast off road? If so any performance differences with the collars? Travel issues? Or do the tires make up for that with PURE BEEF?

2) in terms of on road driving I’ve heard some say that the collars improved handling. With those beefy tires what do you think? Side note what psi are you running?

3) now having gone to the collars do you think you would have needed to do the JKS modificationif you had just gone collars first?

4) Do you think you could have skipped the JKS if you had done the 3.0/2.25” collars and if so, based on your current experience, how big of an impact do you think it would have made on daily driving quality?

5) Stock the HOSS 3.0 is smooth as hell (if ya know, ya know), so on a scale of 1-10 (1 being no change, 10 being holy shit what have I done to this beautiful suspension), how would rate the impact of the collars on daily driving ride quality?

6) lastly, if you could start from stock would you do it again? If not what would you do differently?
 

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1) Have you had this beast off road? If so any performance differences with the collars? Travel issues? Or do the tires make up for that with PURE BEEF?
Offroad, yes. Nothing that I would consider real "wheeling" though. We have some forest service access roads that run through the state park near our house. They are a mix of compacted sand and soft sand with a mix of pine tree roots and nothing too crazy. We live in FL :). I have not been able to get it to rub yet and that was driving it fairly aggressively through there. We also have a Jeep that is purpose built for rock crawling that we use for getting into the crazy stuff like up in Tennessee and North Alabama. Note that this is my wife's daily driver. Don't really have any intention of using it for too much heavy wheeling.
2) in terms of on road driving I’ve heard some say that the collars improved handling. With those beefy tires what do you think? Side note what psi are you running?
Didn't notice any real change to handling. Tires are comfortable. Running at 35 PSI.
3) now having gone to the collars do you think you would have needed to do the JKS modificationif you had just gone collars first?
I was advised by my installer that the JKS max tire clearance kit was necessary to fit 37x12.5x17 otherwise it would have rubbed regardless of lift.
5) Stock the HOSS 3.0 is smooth as hell (if ya know, ya know), so on a scale of 1-10 (1 being no change, 10 being holy shit what have I done to this beautiful suspension), how would rate the impact of the collars on daily driving ride quality?
I agree, the stock ride quality was solid and very comfortable. It was slightly impacted by the collars for me. Note that I ran the 37s on it without the collars for about 2 weeks and it still felt "factory". I was hesitant to put the collars on, as there simply wasn't enough data / review / feedback from people for me to feel comfortable doing it. Had my wife not complained to me about the Bronco needing to be a little bit taller, I wouldn't have put them on. Having put them on and had them installed now for a little over a week and driven it a few hundred miles, it is noticeable to me. I'm curious if the shocks will "break-in" any more and soften up a bit after a few thousand miles. My wife hasn't said one word to me about it though, and she drives it more than I do. She is very happy with it at this point. Had it been a significant change, she would have said something to me about it. I'd rate the impact to the ride quality a 2.75 out of 10. Very minor, but noticeable.
6) lastly, if you could start from stock would you do it again? If not what would you do differently?
100% I'd do it again. I'm a freak when it comes to modifying vehicles though. It's a passion... A very expensive one. The 2.7L with the 4.7 gear ratio handled the 37s better than I expected. I will likely keep it this way until Carli launches their bronco platform. That was the reason I got the collars was a temporary solution until a full kit became available from one of the vendors I've done business with before for the 23 model wildtrak. I've been running their backcountry kit on my F250 and love the ride quality and capability. Really will depend on how it's priced.

Hope this helps. Pictures of my jeep just for reference. I do wheel, just not in the bronco yet... :)
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Offroad, yes. Nothing that I would consider real "wheeling" though. We have some forest service access roads that run through the state park near our house. They are a mix of compacted sand and soft sand with a mix of pine tree roots and nothing too crazy. We live in FL :). I have not been able to get it to rub yet and that was driving it fairly aggressively through there. We also have a Jeep that is purpose built for rock crawling that we use for getting into the crazy stuff like up in Tennessee and North Alabama. Note that this is my wife's daily driver. Don't really have any intention of using it for too much heavy wheeling.

Didn't notice any real change to handling. Tires are comfortable. Running at 35 PSI.

I was advised by my installer that the JKS max tire clearance kit was necessary to fit 37x12.5x17 otherwise it would have rubbed regardless of lift.

I agree, the stock ride quality was solid and very comfortable. It was slightly impacted by the collars for me. Note that I ran the 37s on it without the collars for about 2 weeks and it still felt "factory". I was hesitant to put the collars on, as there simply wasn't enough data / review / feedback from people for me to feel comfortable doing it. Had my wife not complained to me about the Bronco needing to be a little bit taller, I wouldn't have put them on. Having put them on and had them installed now for a little over a week and driven it a few hundred miles, it is noticeable to me. I'm curious if the shocks will "break-in" any more and soften up a bit after a few thousand miles. My wife hasn't said one word to me about it though, and she drives it more than I do. She is very happy with it at this point. Had it been a significant change, she would have said something to me about it. I'd rate the impact to the ride quality a 2.75 out of 10. Very minor, but noticeable.

100% I'd do it again. I'm a freak when it comes to modifying vehicles though. It's a passion... A very expensive one. The 2.7L with the 4.7 gear ratio handled the 37s better than I expected. I will likely keep it this way until Carli launches their bronco platform. That was the reason I got the collars was a temporary solution until a full kit became available from one of the vendors I've done business with before for the 23 model wildtrak. I've been running their backcountry kit on my F250 and love the ride quality and capability. Really will depend on how it's priced.

Hope this helps. Pictures of my jeep just for reference. I do wheel, just not in the bronco yet... :)
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Thanks again for all of the feedback! I have the CJC Carli pin-top Kings on my 2500 and that kit is incredible, it was a ton of work to install but the results speak for themselves- I overland the hell out of it and my MegaCab does incredibly well, much better than one would expect.

I would definitely buy a Carli setup for the Bronco, but honestly I was hoping to get some run out of the OE Fox shocks... so ya this could work as a stop gap for a while.

I had one more question for you- how do you like your tires? Did they balance out alright or are they insane at 70+mph?

I have Baja Boss MTs in a 35" on my 2500 and they were a nightmare to get trimmed out. I am still not happy with them... I have looked closely at these R/T Trails in 37" for the Bronco but I'm definitely concerned they will be as big a pain in the ass as the Mickey Ts.

Would you buy the 37 R/T Trails again or do something else?
 
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I had one more question for you- how do you like your tires? Did they balance out alright or are they insane at 70+mph?
They balanced out fine. They aren't really a MT tire, so not too loud. It drives great at low speed and highway speeds. Only a couple hundred miles on them so far, so just getting broke in. For this application, I'd buy the same tire again.
 
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Hey SC- did you ever get those perch collars on? If so, how'd it work out for you?
Not installed yet. I have them and just waiting on the availability of the shop. Hopefully next week.
 

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Not installed yet. I have them and just waiting on the availability of the shop. Hopefully next week.
Get these on yet? Did you also go with 2.25/1.5”? Impressions?
 

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This is a great thread, thank you for all of the feedback and info, especially @bhxhhcz
 

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17x8.5 wheel, 0 offset, 37x12.5x17 Toyo R/T Trail. I fit that setup on my 23 Wildtrak by only installing the JKS max clearance kit and getting an alignment done. No rubbing, full articulation. Everything was stuffed in there pretty tight.

I added the RPG collars for the extra height and to add some space in the wheel well. To me it looked to stuffed. I did 2.25 in front, 1.5 in rear. It slightly impacted ride quality by stiffening the ride. You feel a lot more minor bumps and noticeable difference when going over speed bumps, drive entrances, etc.

It doesn’t impact enough that it’s uncomfortable, just slightly noticeable.

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I went the same route, I agree with the assessment made by bhxhhcz overall. Running identical wheel setup on 37" KO2s. They were installed yesterday so you can take my words with a grain of salt at this point. I was going to go with SVC because of their competitive price, but I figured for the extra cost I personally found the fox orange color aesthetically pleasing and slightly preferred the heights of the RPG setup. I initially was going to do 2.25 all around, but ended up going the level route after seeing his pics, and I didn't want to regret having a rake when a level might be more of what I was looking for. Being new to all this, I'm wondering if my front looks higher than the rear, maybe it's my eyes playing tricks on me, maybe I'm just a nut. Anyway, here are some pics!

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I went the same route, I agree with the assessment made by bhxhhcz overall. Running identical wheel setup on 37" KO2s. They were installed yesterday so you can take my words with a grain of salt at this point. I was going to go with SVC because of their competitive price, but I figured for the extra cost I personally found the fox orange color aesthetically pleasing and slightly preferred the heights of the RPG setup. I initially was going to do 2.25 all around, but ended up going the level route after seeing his pics, and I didn't want to regret having a rake when a level might be more of what I was looking for. Being new to all this, I'm wondering if my front looks higher than the rear, maybe it's my eyes playing tricks on me, maybe I'm just a nut. Anyway, here are some pics!

Before:
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How differently does it ride? The stock Hoss 3.0 is very smooth.
 

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How differently does it ride? The stock Hoss 3.0 is very smooth.
To be very honest, I haven't driven it enough to substantiate a well thought-out opinion. That being said, on the drive home there was no real discernable difference in the drive. Some very sturdy speed bumps gave a little more thump. Granted I added these collars after my 37s were already installed, I can't say much else. I was willing to give up some of the plushness to keep the suspension geometry unaffected more than doing an above-shock lift. Also, body spacers were out because I find the gaps unsightly, and replacing the hoss 3.0 was out of the question. Overall, the plushness is still there, and very indicative of the factory ride. As a performance enthusiast, the slightly firmer ride works just fine for me. The way I see it that bit of "floatiness" from the oem ride has been neutralized.
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