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Don't worry about it, if you don't change you won't be getting a 2023 Bronco and you probably won't get a 2024 either without changing dealers.

The MY 2023 Transition Offer is the $2500, which is in addition to any other price protection you may or may not have had.
can we change dealers though?
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I wonder if this has anything to do with the supposed 2024 refresh, where Ford is understocked for parts which won't carry over to the new model. Sasquatch sounds like it's a tire supply issue, but the roof and lux package might be indicative of a modified hardtop design or new interior.
 

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Haven't read the whole thread. But was it touched on as to what the reasoning was for leaving the Black Diamond off as a choice for Wildtrak customers to switch to.
 

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I suspect it does apply to the two door.

In the past, Ford "suggested" customers change orders to 4-door soft top non-Sas, because Ford was able to more easily produce those. This new scheme is the same thing, basically a stronger suggestion, with $2500 incentive, along with threat of no Bronco and maybe losing any price protections.

I suspect this new scheme is just Ford pushing same old changes as before - buy a 4-door soft top non-Sas, or else ...
From what others have suggested, 2D orders likely exceed production capability (I think they were using earlier demand numbers since we didn’t see a 2D demand number in the T&C video).

If that’s true then Ford would still encourage people to switch from 2D to 4D soft to balance 2D demand and production capacity.

But some here have been asking whether this announcement means no 2D production at all, which is not the case. It looks like they can only produce 2/3 of current 2D orders for MY23. So if you’re sitting on a 2D order you have a 1 in 3 chance of not getting it this year.
 

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Haven't read the whole thread. But was it touched on as to what the reasoning was for leaving the Black Diamond off as a choice for Wildtrak customers to switch to.
It hasn't been mentioned why. There isn't any component that is unique to the BD (other than the seating) that can't be had on the Badlands. The Base was also omitted so maybe there is a grill shortage? <-- I say that in jest, but it wouldn't surprise me if the MY'24 refresh changes some attribute of grill styles causing the current supply to be limited.
 

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I wonder if this has anything to do with the supposed 2024 refresh, where Ford is understocked for parts which won't carry over to the new model. Sasquatch sounds like it's a tire supply issue, but the roof and lux package might be indicative of a modified hardtop design or new interior.
You might be overthinking it a bit regarding Lux.

Physical changes to the interior for Lux are the stereo, USB ports, garage door opener, and wireless charger. The garage door opener is exactly the same as the one in my Mustang. USB port module looks the same as the Escapes I drive at work. This just leaves the stereo and wireless charger.

It's more likely that Lux is in shortage because of the adaptive cruise sensor. Jeep has had the Advanced Safety package on the Wrangler come in and out of orderable status a couple times over the past few months.
 

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How can a company as large as Ford have such a "fly by the seat of their pants" plan for the Bronco? We all get constraints, but it seems like every plan they come out with is a best case scenario, which never happens, so they continuously have to come up with more plans. I guess the new guy steering the ship doesn't quite have his arms around this yet.
But they do know what they are doing. They absolutely do. This was the plan all along. Yes, there are probably constraints to a degree but do not think for a minute they can't build Wildtracks and SAS. They are everywhere on dealer lots. How odd.

Their plan: Purge all the early reservations which I'm guessing are leaning in the "nicely appointed" categories of builds/trims. We were the hype machine. We like the truck and wanted all the trimmings.

Then re-open the order banks fresh and restart production making dealer stock and return back to normal. Normal being making dealer stock so that they can continue to upcharge with ADMs. Folks, FORD has made nearly 200K Broncos. They are selling at ridiculous prices and it is working for them. They want us out of the way.

The mid-MY price increase will hurt people's feelings once they are rid of the early rez holders. But you will see all trims available widely by summer and going into the fall. The builds we want will be pushing $60-70K before ADM.
 

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.....This is the worst shit show of any new vehicle launch I have ever seen.

But it is fun to watch. I reserved in July 2020, reserved another in October 2020. 2dr MIC Sas. Cancelled one reservation. Switched dealers twice. I think I've placed orders 2 or 3 times, I'm not sure. Have had more than 70 emails with dealers. Provided copies of drivers license and insurance to dealer several times. I think I still may be on a list to get a Bronco at some point.

But I really don't care anymore. Bought a Jeep in June 2021 when it became obvious that the Bronco wait could be a long one. The Bronco may get here some day. But I don't know if I'll be the buyer.
 

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I've been trying to keep up with all the thread conversations over the weekend. One thing I believe I have read is that this is only going to impact those that haven't had their orders scheduled yet. Is there a way to modify an order that is scheduled? Let's say someone has the Lux package, but wanted to switch down to high. Could they do that? So I apologize if I missed this and it's been covered.
 

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Ordered a Wildtrack/ Lux Package, tow hitch, dual tops 10/15/2020 and I’m not changing…. I’ll just wait them out and buy a Jeep in the mean time.
 

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I've been trying to keep up with all the thread conversations over the weekend. One thing I believe I have read is that this is only going to impact those that haven't had their orders scheduled yet. Is there a way to modify an order that is scheduled? Let's say someone has the Lux package, but wanted to switch down to high. Could they do that? So I apologize if I missed this and it's been covered.
If you are "Scheduled - Clean", then you are good. Do not request order modification. Let them build your Bronco.
 

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Hi everyone! Completely new to this and ordered an OBX w/ MIC through the Military AutoSource program in early December 2022. I was given a VIN and the status says "Scheduled for Production" but with no date. Does having a VIN save me from these changes? Thank you!
 

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So I have a 2.7 2DR WT LUX HOSS on order. Wtf do I do to make the alternative to look and feel even remotely similar?
As far as I can see, it’ll cost way over $2.5k that they’re offering.

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We are hosed. I have the same build as you Day 1, Hour 1 res holder. I have spent some time trying to figure it out. Using the Ford Build it tool, MY MSRP was @58K (not including my prorgram dollars) Lux, Cloth, upgraded bumper that was all I had on mine.

Closest I was able to do is toss the Lux, move to high, Badlands, non sas. Benefit is I actually would prefer Marine Grade seats to cloth or leather-that is the only benefit as far as I see.

Now the problems. Price Non SAS Badlands @55k not including programs.

You would have to buy heavy duty steering rack, 4.7, Fox shocks, tie rods, SAS fenders, wheels and 35s, upgrade your stereo and live without a few things like heated steering, ACC, evasive steering assist and then a couple of things I don't really care about-garage door opener, charger etc.

Assume 1250 for new wheels, 1750 for tires, 5K for Shocks, steering rack ?, 4.7 ? SAS fenders @400, stereo @1500-2000, tie rods 400. Now add in labor-2K estimate including alignment. I am somewhat handy but this stuff is either above my pay grade or don't have the tools to do them.

So the 2500 bucks and the 3k savings isn't going to cover half the cost.

You could argue you end up with better wheels and tires-totally agree Goodyears are not good tires. Stereo likely better as well.

Fact is this is a terrible deal for people who ordered a Wildtrak and have been waiting for a couple of years now to get one. It obviously is what it is but anyone thinking that Ford is taking care of these folks aren't thinking clearly.

Biggest open question is what about the top for us two door folks. If that is the snag for us and not just the 4 doors our options become even more limited.
 

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Wow, the hits keep coming.... I was fortunate to get mine the end of December including all the restraints.
 

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Ordered a Wildtrack/ Lux Package, tow hitch, dual tops 10/15/2020 and I’m not changing…. I’ll just wait them out and buy a Jeep in the mean time.
Exactly what I’m thinking about doing!
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