No more 2023MY scheduling for hardtops, Sasquatch and LUX (reported by dealership)

[Butzy]

Not sure why ford doesn't remove these options from their build page. After waiting 9 months for delivery, I decided to order a replacement but was told they aren't taking 2 door orders. Telling customers they can order certain things then telling them These things aren't available is complete nonsense. Pull the base 2dr from the build page if it isn't available!!!!!!

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[22OBX]

If Ford would allow ordering of the dual top group and then commit to delivering the MIC top sometime later for a fair delivery fee I would be much happier. I can live without the Lux package and I never had the Sas on my order. No hard top is almost a complete deal killer for me. I've looked at the aftermarket one and it's probably nice but $6K is just too much to pay.

About the same as ADM or cheaper…aftermarket hard top may be the route to go…if you can get it.

 

[22OBX]

I would love to have one of these and build it how it should be built. I guess if I sold the guts out of our base base....

Same thing I said 30 pages or so ago.

 

[Butzy]

Same thing I said 30 pages or so ago.

Yeah. Naturally I didn't read them all.

 

[22OBX]

Yeah I saw it in a B6G post in the past couple of days. At the time I was thinking why is he ignoring the demand (order) percentages? I didn't write down the percentages he shared but MIC demand vs. constraint was the biggest differential by far. Squatch and Lux demand and constraint percentages weren't too far apart (maybe 5% delta if I recall correctly).

MIC hard top constraints has been fuzziest to understand because Ford doesn't differentiate between 2 door and 4 door. I've always wondered if the 2 door constraint percentage is solely due to the 2 door MIC top or if their body stamping also has limitations?

What Mitchell showed on 2 door constraint percentage vs. demand was about a 35% delta. E.G. the constraint percentage was something like 17% but demand was 23%. That would mean 35% of the folks with a 2 door order won't get it fulfilled this year.

The numbers are posted several times on the thread. For two door 17% constraint and 28% ordered. 39% will not be filled in ‘23 or about 11% of total orders. If those are real #’s. Best we have from what I have seen.

 

[22OBX]

Good grief.

It may open for very basic builds, but no 2 door , no SAS, no Lux, etc. who knows when. Summer?

 

[Min_Ahn]

LMFAO LOOKS LIKE I"M NEVER GETTING MY CAR

 

[22OBX]

No, but my Order guarantees an Order... it just doesn't guarantee that Ford will ever build it.

As for making parts magically appear, that was someone's job at Ford and they f'd it up. Either by failing to have multiple suppliers, proprietary equipment, and/or not having enforceable contracts.

My guess is the do have forceable contracts and suppliers are probably paying penalties. I wouldn’t think most manufacturers would have optional suppliers. I work in supply chain and it’s bad, and we do have multiple suppliers, but it’s because of the nature of what we sell.

 

[Garemlin]

Not sure why ford doesn't remove these options from their build page. After waiting 9 months for delivery, I decided to order a replacement but was told they aren't taking 2 door orders. Telling customers they can order certain things then telling them These things aren't available is complete nonsense. Pull the base 2dr from the build page if it isn't available!!!!!!

You know it wouldn’t be a bad idea to just make the Bronco available as a soft top convertible vehicle only for now. It would lower the amount of orders and would also give them time to get this whole hard top debacle figured out. When it is 110% ready start offering a hard top option again.

 

[Butzy]

You know it wouldn’t be a bad idea to just make the Bronco available as a soft top convertible vehicle only for now. It would lower the amount of orders and would also give them time to get this whole hard top debacle figured out. When it is 110% ready start offering a hard top option again.

They really need to get their shit together. Knock out existing orders before revealing new models and accepting new orders. Strike deals with the 99s and then proceed.

 

[GI_Jo_Nathan]

You know it wouldn’t be a bad idea to just make the Bronco available as a soft top convertible vehicle only for now. It would lower the amount of orders and would also give them time to get this whole hard top debacle figured out. When it is 110% ready start offering a hard top option again.

We kind of thought that's what happened back in 2021...

 

[Butzy]

I know 170000 orders is a lot to take charge of but in today's world, computers make sorting these things out fairly easy especially for a company as big as Ford. If they had built all build able orders and kept order banks off, we still wouldn't have day one reservation holders waiting to be scheduled. FFS Ford. But hey! Look! Heritage model!!!

 

[Nobroncoyet]

my buddy was talking about that crap on the ride home yesterday in his car.

That crap sucks...$50 for 30 min or $75 a full hour

 

[mike8675309]

The numbers are posted several times on the thread. For two door 17% constraint and 28% ordered. 39% will not be filled in ‘23 or about 11% of total orders. If those are real #’s. Best we have from what I have seen.

To help people understand these numbers.

28% of those orders in the system are for Two Door models.
17% of that 28% can not be completed due to constraints.

May not be accurate because, well, ford doesn't like it to be easy.

 

[Fly by Nite]

To help people understand these numbers.

28% of those orders in the system are for Two Door models.
17% of that 28% can not be completed due to constraints.

That's not correct.
220bx had it right.
They can't build the 28%, but they can build 17%.
17% is 60.7% of 28%.
You can say Ford can build 60.7% of the 2 door orders, or you can say they can't build 39.3% of them.

I put that spreadsheet together but didn't have a figure for the current 2 door orders, so I used the 28% figure reported in Sept 2021.

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