2023 Bronco Allocation is Based on These 2 Factors

[Beach_Bum]

The way I understand it is i wouldn’t have to deal with that voucher BS and rely on dealer to actually cut a check out at a later date? It’s taken off right then and there? This pp still works for those after original Mar 21 cutoff?

The retail PP is different than the PP from year-to-year. The retail PP from mid-year price increases is handled as a credit to the dealer after the sale. At which time (can take up to 90 days after the sale), the dealer should reimburse the buyer with the credit. Some dealers will deduct the mid-year price increase at the time of sale and will carry the discrepancy on their books until Ford issues the credit.

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[BTEC]

Thank you Zach!

 

[OmahaKevin]

I really hope Ford strictly enforces COVP and that stops this multiple order BS. They are clogging the system and allowing dealers to get Broncos for their lots in trims they wouldn't have access to while also taking parts away from orders that we have in the system.

 

[Xrayphoton1]

I really hope Ford strictly enforces COVP and that stops this multiple order BS. They are clogging the system and allowing dealers to get Broncos for their lots in trims they wouldn't have access to while also taking parts away from orders that we have in the system.

I think it was already announced that they aren't doing anything with covp

 

[Little Foot]

@Zach@Granger

Zach, any chance are you selling the Ram TRX at or below invoice? I may want t to trade in my F-150 after this whole fiasco. Especially if I don’t get a 2023 Bronco, now that my order has gone from a 2021 to a 2022, to a 2023.

I have always had a F-150 since 1999, after joining the Army and multiple Mustangs and Shelby GT-500s as a second “fun” car. The Bronco is supposed to be my “fun” car, but I am at the point of being ready to walk away.

I am thinking that I probably should look at making a change to a different brand for my every day truck and “fun” car….Life is too short to wait on companies like Ford.

Hope you are listening @Ford Motor Company as you are going to lose current and future revenue because of your shenanigans.

If I don’t see meaningful movement where I feel comfortable that I will get my order, I will swap my vehicles to a different brand and Ford, you will lose out on a reliable customer. Plain and simple…..

 

[MLRey]

If you don’t plan on taking your Bronco, why not step out of line so that another Granger customer has a better chance at getting their build?

I'm in the mid 400's so it really won't make much difference. Also with it looking like around 3 more years for the order to finally go through it might still make sense for me. My wife has a Subaru Outback and it will be about 8 or 9 years old by the time the Bronco shows up. So I get a Jeep now and then in a few years I'll use the Bronco to replace my wifes Subaru. Only problem with that will be that it will be her Bronco unless I can convince her to take the Jeep. I guess that's a problem for later though.

 

[MLRey]

That's interesting as I am getting a second bronco soon, which I ordered last December, while my original Bronco was moved to 23.

I'm glad you have a Bronco but this is what is so infuriating about how Ford is treating reservation holders from 2020. To entice people to put down money (admittedly a small amount) they declared they would fill reservations before other orders. Sort of sounds like an obligation to me but they went back on that with no repercussions. If you make an agreement with someone in business you stick to it but Ford has gone back on nearly everything they've posted about Bronco reservations and orders. I probably could have gotten a Bronco by now if I hadn't switched to Granger but the other dealerships I contacted indicated I'd pay whatever they felt like charging and I was never going to do that.

 

[evgenyvasenev]

I'm glad you have a Bronco but this is what is so infuriating about how Ford is treating reservation holders from 2020. To entice people to put down money (admittedly a small amount) they declared they would fill reservations before other orders. Sort of sounds like an obligation to me but they went back on that with no repercussions. If you make an agreement with someone in business you stick to it but Ford has gone back on nearly everything they've posted about Bronco reservations and orders. I probably could have gotten a Bronco by now if I hadn't switched to Granger but the other dealerships I contacted indicated I'd pay whatever they felt like charging and I was never going to do that.

My first order with Granger too. 07/15/20 reservation and it's maybe going to be 23 At the end of the last year, I found a local dealer who honors MSRP, so I ordered the same build. I dropped a hardtop in the middle of this year and it was finally scheduled for production In September. Not it's on the way to the dealership. It's frustrating how the whole allocation system works, I had no idea about it when I stepped into this process. I believed the timestamp is king...

 

[BigFootie]

My first order with Granger too. 07/15/20 reservation and it's maybe going to be 23 At the end of the last year, I found a local dealer who honors MSRP, so I ordered the same build. I dropped a hardtop in the middle of this year and it was finally scheduled for production In September. Not it's on the way to the dealership. It's frustrating how the whole allocation system works, I had no idea about it when I stepped into this process. I believed the timestamp is king...

Well, that’s because that’s what Ford was telling everyone. It wasn’t early until the Fall of 2020 did the winds begin to change and not until the Fall of 2021 where it became crystal clear that Ford was not going to follow reservation time stamps.

For those of us that have been here since the start, there is no mystery. But, many of us are still supporting Granger as they were here from the beginning as well. Albert helped everyone that asked, not just Granger customers.

 

[BeerForMyHorses]

Outerbanks or base.

@Zach@Granger can you confirm if price protection will be removed if trims are changed when updating an order to the new model year?

 

[hemiblas]

@Zach@Granger

Zach, any chance are you selling the Ram TRX at or below invoice? I may want t to trade in my F-150 after this whole fiasco. Especially if I don’t get a 2023 Bronco, now that my order has gone from a 2021 to a 2022, to a 2023.

I have always had a F-150 since 1999, after joining the Army and multiple Mustangs and Shelby GT-500s as a second “fun” car. The Bronco is supposed to be my “fun” car, but I am at the point of being ready to walk away.

I am thinking that I probably should look at making a change to a different brand for my every day truck and “fun” car….Life is too short to wait on companies like Ford.

Hope you are listening @Ford Motor Company as you are going to lose current and future revenue because of your shenanigans.

If I don’t see meaningful movement where I feel comfortable that I will get my order, I will swap my vehicles to a different brand and Ford, you will lose out on a reliable customer. Plain and simple…..

They are. They actually have a really good deal on them. I'll be trading in my Ranger for something from Granger next year and agreed it won't be a Ford product.

 

[The Compensator]

They are. They actually have a really good deal on them. I'll be trading in my Ranger for something from Granger next year and agreed it won't be a Ford product.

I'm in the same boat as yall. Daily driving my third F150, and my fun car is a 95 Bronco. After talking with both my local dealerships, they didn't know anything at all about the new broncos, what Ford’s website said, or any of the helpful info on this forum. But they sure knew that I'd need at least 2k to make a reservation, and would need to happily pay an ADM to buy from them. So even after that shadyness, I still tried to give Ford my money through a Grange-tober reservation. We've all seen how that's working out. Currently shopping for gladiators/wranglers and might order through Granger since they are offering deals on those too. Will most likely trade in the F150, and sell the 95 Bronco. No more Fords for me.

@Ford Motor Company,

That's 3 lifelong Ford fans jumping ship unless something changes drastically and soon on this thread alone. Instead the new Bronco pulling other manufacturers buyers to the blue oval, your pushing your lifetime customers away instead...

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

@Ford Motor Company,

That's 3 lifelong Ford fans jumping ship unless something changes drastically and soon on this thread alone. Instead the new Bronco pulling other manufacturers buyers to the blue oval, your pushing your lifetime customers away instead...

Well said!

I'm a first time new Ford buyer, only thing I've been lucky with is that I was 99d waiting on white top and didn't need the Bronco so I wasn't stressing the wait.

Now that I'll finally have a buildable order in the system and the stated availability of what I originally wanted 2 years ago I expect @Ford Motor Company to fix this mess not only for me but for all of us loyal Granger and Ford customers.

It's been said that reservation holders would be taken care of in MY22 and now we're rolling to MY23 with early reservations still on Grangers' books. Going off of Zachs numbers there's 600 orders that will go unfilled, that's potentially $30 million dollars in lost sales for Ford. If doing the right thing for your customers doesn't sway you then maybe the bottom line of doing it will.

 

[RyanP]

Well said!

I'm a first time new Ford buyer, only thing I've been lucky with is that I was 99d waiting on white top and didn't need the Bronco so I wasn't stressing the wait.

Now that I'll finally have a buildable order in the system and the stated availability of what I originally wanted 2 years ago I expect @Ford Motor Company to fix this mess not only for me but for all of us loyal Granger and Ford customers.

It's been said that reservation holders would be taken care of in MY22 and now we're rolling to MY23 with early reservations still on Grangers' books. Going off of Zachs numbers there's 600 orders that will go unfilled, that's potentially $30 million dollars in lost sales for Ford. If doing the right thing for your customers doesn't sway you then maybe the bottom line of doing it will.

Ford won’t lose any sales as they’re just reallocating their production to their top dealers in an effort to keep them happy. If their top dealers were actually good dealerships, they would have the most reservations, which they don’t. IMHO, it’s shortsighted at best as they’re not rewarding those dealerships that do their jobs better. The only thing Ford has clearly demonstrated time and again throughout this entire process is that they are not a company that can be trusted. At this point, it’s shame on us for believing what they say and / or put in writing, which is a pretty sad thing. Fool me once……

 

[MLRey]

Well said!

I'm a first time new Ford buyer, only thing I've been lucky with is that I was 99d waiting on white top and didn't need the Bronco so I wasn't stressing the wait.

Now that I'll finally have a buildable order in the system and the stated availability of what I originally wanted 2 years ago I expect @Ford Motor Company to fix this mess not only for me but for all of us loyal Granger and Ford customers.

It's been said that reservation holders would be taken care of in MY22 and now we're rolling to MY23 with early reservations still on Grangers' books. Going off of Zachs numbers there's 600 orders that will go unfilled, that's potentially $30 million dollars in lost sales for Ford. If doing the right thing for your customers doesn't sway you then maybe the bottom line of doing it will.

The way Ford looks at it they are not lost sales because they will sell every Bronco they can make. Not filling reservations is actually a money saver for them because they don't have to honor the price protection they promised. No doubt some Ford executive bean counter figured this out some time ago and made a nice little PowerPoint presentation showing how much Ford could save by pushing people to 2024 and then ending the price protection. When it comes up they'll claim they were more than generous by noting they honored price protection all the way through 2023. That's true but it ignores the fact that they avoided the cost of price protection by simply not filling most of those orders. As others have noted they really don't seem to care about the person buying the Bronco and clearly don't care about the long term impact of what they're doing.

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