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I edited my post above they have one for the m186 I attached a picI think it is a good answer. Just not the best answer. But for a lot of people, its all you need.
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I edited my post above they have one for the m186 I attached a picI think it is a good answer. Just not the best answer. But for a lot of people, its all you need.
I get it, just don't understand why for on road traction purposes its a necessity. I've never been in a situation on road with good tires that any standard 4H or 4A system wasn't adequateBecause he specifically asked about LSDs.
I get it, just don't understand why for on road traction purposes its a necessity. I've never been in a situation on road with good tires that any standard 4H or 4A system wasn't adequate
That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.Necessary wasn't part of the question. He asked a simple question of which LSDs were available.
But more specifically to your question, if you have used the same vehicle with all the modern traction devices with an open diff and a Torsen style diff, you would be hard pressed to say they were the same. The Torsen style LSD does offer advantages to the open diff. No matter how good my Toyota traction control was, it would still spin a tire in certain conditions on wet or slick highway. Adding a TrueTrac got rid of almost all spinning unless I try to make it do so.
Sure, modern traction control is great. It really is all one needs. Sometimes though, people want even better performance and it's not just about what one needs to get down the road.
missing meaning missing out on.That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.
That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.
This is not a LSD, just a varient of a locker with less predictable driving behavior than the stock e-lockers.Looks like it fits the m186![]()
Great. That'll just put more demand on Bronco and make them harder to get as well...The troll. I mean OP is trying to clickbait you into arguing about LSD in snow and it’s march.
If I hear about a GD Sahara once more I’m gonna buy them all and sell them to carvana so he can’t have one.
I am aware it’s a ratcheting lunchbox locker, it would be atrocious on the front axle in snow. Throttle equals instant lock.This is not a LSD, just a varient of a locker with less predictable driving behavior than the stock e-lockers.
Gotcha, just making sure that was clear. I've run them front and rear in snow and once you get used to them they're manageable.I am aware it’s a ratcheting lunchbox locker, it would be atrocious on the front axle in snow. Throttle equals instant lock.
Clutch type diffs have a not-undeserved bad rap, but a lot of modern ones aren't that bad. Ford switched to using carbon clutch plates about a decade ago, and they are considerably more durable than the older versions. My own anecdotal evidence is that the 85K mile diff in my F-150 is also still working pretty well. Doesn't mean I won't eventually change it, but I haven't felt it was necessary yet.In defense of clutch type LSDs, I’ve had them in various pickups & SUVs throughout the decades; saying they are total junk is a gross overstatement. Do they eventually wear out? Yes of course, although that depends a lot on use & abuse. To wit, I’m currently driving an LSD-equipped F150 with 140,000 miles — it is still effective at helping in low traction situations & it does not chatter or have bad manners.
If I could find either a clutch or gear type posi for the front of my Big Bend I’d certainly give it strong consideration.