A New Kind of Portal

[vrtical]

This is a lot to read.... There is a reason we use straight cut gears over helical cut gears in race transmissions, different application, same philosophy's. I also have issues with anything cast vs billet in these types of applications, but thats been explained already.

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[userdude]

Damn man. Dropping some bombs here. It all makes sense though.

I don't think I'm making any claims about the influencer economy that isn't well known to those who are paying attention. They can act adjacent to but different shades of gray to con artistry, which is generally considered a more directly interpersonal sort of influencing. You may even be choosing to believe some you approve of, even though you know they're full of it.

It's a whole range, and specifically I'm not saying he's a con artist. It's possible he's even taken in by what he says, too. It's just the nature of the beast. We're all a little nuts, just more careful/paranoid in some respects.

 

[PEGB]

I don't think I'm making any claims about the influencer economy that isn't well known to those who are paying attention. They can act adjacent to but different shades of gray to con artistry, which is generally considered a more directly interpersonal sort of influencing. You may even be choosing to believe some you approve of, even though you know they're full of it.

It's a whole range, and specifically I'm not saying he's a con artist. It's possible he's even taken in by what he says, too. It's just the nature of the beast. We're all a little nuts, just more careful/paranoid in some respects.

Or some of us are more skilled at hiding it than others.

 

[HeHateMe]

I don't think I'm making any claims about the influencer economy that isn't well known to those who are paying attention. They can act adjacent to but different shades of gray to con artistry, which is generally considered a more directly interpersonal sort of influencing. You may even be choosing to believe some you approve of, even though you know they're full of it.

It's a whole range, and specifically I'm not saying he's a con artist. It's possible he's even taken in by what he says, too. It's just the nature of the beast. We're all a little nuts, just more careful/paranoid in some respects.

Winner!

As an ex-presi, err, influencer believes, any publicity is good, even the negative. It'll drive views, engagement, etc and make money.

And you're right too @PEGB , some are VERY GOOD at hiding it and convincing the masses.

Looks like I'm set on some 74weld portals, and maybe, just maybe, they'll drop in price soon with financing...

 

[GreyZ]

I've said from the beginning that I wouldn't trust a single thing designed by Tyler. Compare his informational portal videos to 74Welds and it is night and day. They guy doesn't have a clue what he is talking about and is just repeating what someone else has told him.

The bolt on portals are a bad idea. There is not a way to "fix" the idea, it just fundamentally is not structurally sound based on the width and structural loads the OEM cast upright was designed for. The helical gears are a bad idea because of the significant structural loads in the axial directions. Heat, load, inefficiency, thickness. He doesn't seem to get it and it is all a grift for parking lot show offs.

He constantly drives with something allegedly damaged on his bronco so that when the portals break he has something to blame it on.

And the hypocrisy of cutting out the designer and going directly to the overseas manufacturer after he ranted many times about being against is. He puts on this super patriot red mantra in all of his videos and public presentation but as soon as he stands to profit he flops at the first opportunity to support communist country's manufacturing. The ultimate grifter and conman.

Sadly I am sure this will be successful until someone gets injured or killed and he gets sued out of the market.

 

[HPNQ420]

Can you pass my quiz?

This is a first semester class quiz on gear design... These are a rather simple bevel cut gear... Helical gears are considerably more complicated....

Thank you for the flashback to 1992 . I would need to study this a lot to pass as my entire engineering career has been thermo and heat transfer with a bit of beam deflection on the side!

 

[userdude]

Sadly I am sure this will be successful until someone gets injured or killed and he gets sued out of the market.

I'm not going to criticize those who are choosing to put their money on the cheaper portals. Each of us has our price point. I do wonder if people who are serious about off roading will see a $5k premium all that problematic compared to the competition.

Sometimes spending the extra money is simply worth it. As you point out, putting a potentially problematic part on your wheels could very easily lead to catastrophe. However, my guess is that those contemplating these portals are not necessarily aware of others out there, and may in many cases be breaking open the piggy bank to get them.

I would simply caution anyone looking at portals from any manufacturer to slow down. Let the more capable and knowledgeable take the early risks. For me personally, that meant waiting at least a year for 74W portals, to see how it goes. And to give myself enough time to talk myself out of them... lol

 

[5GENIDN]

Thank you for the flashback to 1992 . I would need to study this a lot to pass as my entire engineering career has been thermo and heat transfer with a bit of beam deflection on the side!

So you are saying that you had a generalized education and then specialized based on the jobs you had? To be honest sounds like you did it right.... And see I did not specialize in much of anything... Caught in that "general" category. Jack of all trades and master of none.

 

[Big Boss]

For anyone else joining late, the TL/DR is

-Broncbuster announced their own portal line
-Tibus accused Broncbuster of stealing his IP, stiffing him for $28k and being a fraud.
-Tyler accused Tibus of being a fraud, says he found Tibus' source and cut Tibus out

Thanks for the cliff notes but I still read every page haha.

And still have no idea what a portal is lol, started losing track when the conversation got to helical cut or straight gears lol

 

[userdude]

Thanks for the cliff notes but I still read every page haha.

And still have no idea what a portal is lol, started losing track when the conversation got to helical cut or straight gears lol

There are three general types of lifts I know about: Body, suspension and axle. Lifting the axle is a portal. Disregard the word, basically it's gearing at the wheel where the axle stub goes into the top gear in the gear box, and the wheel attaches at a hub centered on the bottom gear. From centerline to centerline on the upper/lower gear is the amount of lift, and clearance, you gain.

They are generally used to raise the undercarriage entirely, so you don't get suspension part splay at bad angles/geometry (e.g. suspension lifts, which allows most clearance gain from a bigger tire size) or no pure clearance (e.g. body lifts, which also lets you get some clearance from the tires). Portals lift the axles, so you gain the most in clearance.

The types of gears used are generally straight or helical. You would recognize straight, think like a clock's big gears. Helical is cocked at an angle.

There are also different types of portals. I'm not as aware of what they're technically called, but typically you hear them referred to as Hummer, Mercedes and Unimog portals. Essentially, the type refers to the manufacturer that popularized the design.

 

[broadicustomworks]

So you are saying that you had a generalized education and then specialized based on the jobs you had? To be honest sounds like you did it right.... And see I did not specialize in much of anything... Caught in that "general" category. Jack of all trades and master of none.

That's not a bad thing.
Just means having to pay someone else to do some things becomes an option vs. necessity.
I find it to be quite handy.
But it's also a curse, as the "to do" lists can get quite lengthy.

 

[HPNQ420]

So you are saying that you had a generalized education and then specialized based on the jobs you had? To be honest sounds like you did it right.... And see I did not specialize in much of anything... Caught in that "general" category. Jack of all trades and master of none.

Correct, and now even more specialized in the high performance window industry after a couple of stints in acedamia (Marquette University and TU Berlin) interspersed with industry (Cleaver Brooks and Siemens Power/KWU).

 

[Felix808]

Must be a decent influencer as he’s convinced a shitload of people to buy that dumbass tierod brace

Guilty, but seems to be working with the other 2 steering upgrades so I won't be spending money to replace them until I have to.

YMMV

 

[SierraBronco]

The new steering rack you’ll inevitably need might come with tierods

 

[DYak]

You know I was thinking... Let's assume Tyler's telling the truth that Tibus doesn't design or manufacture anything. He just described himself. This would be the same as someone going to Brackin Machine and snaking his supply chain for the clamp and diff tube.

AUSTIN, WHERE YOU AT??

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