throttle mapping with manual

[Drex]

Have seen it mentioned in many places, but never any follow through. If the G.O.A.T. modes do indeed change throttle response as popularly believed, it will be a source of aggravation for manual drivers trying to engage the clutch smoothly from a start (and if in a non-normal mode, conditions are probably requiring more precision in clutch work).

Does any one know or can find out if the throttle mapping changes will be neutered on the manual when using the G.O.A.T. modes?

If not, I cannot see any manual driver using them unless the vehicle is unable to be driven in slippery conditions because of overly aggressive throttle opening in 'normal' mode to make people think the vehicles are faster than they are in reality.

Being B6g; there will obviously be a lot of... extraneous replies. I pledge to update this first post if the actual answer is given so there is no need for future folks to waste their time wading through all of it when all they want is a quick answer. So if there is nothing below here, there is no real answer yet;


(future resolution space) Sadly, as expected, no one could answer the underlined direct question, nor, from their answers, apparently believe that muscle memory is a thing with a clutch and a throttle as they see no possible inconvenience with changing throttle mapping back and forth and using a clutch from a dead stop.

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[Lcubed]

worse case, something like the pedal commander or remus responder will come out in the aftermarket to modify the throttle response right at the pedal., but i’m guessing the goat modes are already at a decent starting setup for most MT situations.

 

[KH_59]

Who's to say that the various G.O.A.T. modes won't be optimized to give the type of throttle control that we want/need? Maybe there are actual 4WD enthusiasts involved somewhere in the development team.

 

[3Dogs]

Based on what I have read, the throttle response is adjusted to “aggressive” in Baja mode. In all the “slippery” modes, it’s normal. So, the OP’s scenario shouldn’t be an issue.

 

[Flourman]

I don’t see why it wouldn’t. Even with a manual, throttle response can help quite a bit. I look at my dirt bike. It’s carbureted with a manual clutch plus ignition mapping. When I flip it to “clouds”, it tames the ignition to help prevent wheel spin even though the manual clutch can do that too.

Driving today in the slush with my 3.5EB, I realized how important throttle control is with a turbo’ed motor. Too heavy of a foot and the turbs kick in and the chance for wheel spin is dramatically increased.

 

[Laminar]

it will be a source of aggravation for manual drivers trying to engage the clutch smoothly from a start (and if in a non-normal mode, conditions are probably requiring more precision in clutch work).

Do you think that no one's ever put multiple driving modes on a manual vehicle before?

 

[mestuntman]

WTF OVER?

 

[Drex]

Do you think that no one's ever put multiple driving modes on a manual vehicle before?

Hadn't considered it as it is irrelevant to my question on the throttle maps in a Bronco's G.O.A.T. modes. To recap; I was asking a very narrowly defined (and underlined so that people of all resonable concentration and intelligence levels could easily identify it) question about Ford and the Bronco.

To answer your rather odd question; No, I believe it is likely that people have put multiple driving modes on a manual vehicle in the past.

I hope that cleared up your burning desire to find out what I think on that subject, if you ever have any information on my question (the underlined one in the OP), please remember how I helped you out with your question and let me know the answer.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Lcubed]

(future resolution space) Sadly, as expected, no one could answer the underlined direct question, nor, from their answers, apparently believe that muscle memory is a thing with a clutch and a throttle as they see no possible inconvenience with changing throttle mapping back and forth and using a clutch from a dead stop.

it's not been an issue on my past off road stick shift vehicles.

i can't imagine that ford would map the throttle response for example in rock crawl mode to be twitchy as i would expect for sport mode.

worst case, you can program an arduino to modify the throttle/pedal response to your preferred profile.

 

[Laminar]

Hadn't considered it as it is irrelevant to my question on the throttle maps in a Bronco's G.O.A.T. modes. To recap; I was asking a very narrowly defined (and underlined so that people of all resonable concentration and intelligence levels could easily identify it) question about Ford and the Bronco.

To answer your rather odd question; No, I believe it is likely that people have put multiple driving modes on a manual vehicle in the past.

SImilarly, I'm trying to walk you through this step by step so that the slower people here can keep up.

You're asking a question about a vehicle that no one besides ball-gagged Ford employees have driven. Because none of us have a crystal ball, all we can do is look around to see if if a similar situation has arisen elsewhere and see how the issues were addressed.

If an automaker has put multiple driving modes on a vehicle before, how did they handle the effects of muscle memory on clutch engagement when altering throttle pedal response?

And please, be "resonable."

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