Public land sale

[Valhalla]

I came across this and thought I'd share.


https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives/public-land-sales-blm-rmp

https://blueribboncoalition.org/wes...n-acres-of-public-land-fast-tracked-for-sale/


These are the reposted clean links.

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[HotdogThud]

IB4TL

 

[flashpunk]

It would be rad if you could remove the tracking portion from those links.
Here are clean links:


https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives/public-land-sales-blm-rmp

https://blueribboncoalition.org/wes...n-acres-of-public-land-fast-tracked-for-sale/

 

[Valhalla]

It would be rad if you could remove the tracking portion from those links.
Here are clean links:


https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives/public-land-sales-blm-rmp

https://blueribboncoalition.org/wes...n-acres-of-public-land-fast-tracked-for-sale/

done

 

[BamaBronc]

I came across this and thought I'd share.


https://www.onxmaps.com/onx-access-initiatives/public-land-sales-blm-rmp

https://blueribboncoalition.org/wes...n-acres-of-public-land-fast-tracked-for-sale/


These are the reposted clean links.

Oh goodie, big corporations and land owners getting more.

 

[615_Bronco]

Why can’t they put solar farms over parking lots and on buildings in cities instead of open land?

 

[Brian_B]

Wow, you could buy almost half of the state of Nevada.

 

[OverBudget]

Wow, you could buy almost half of the state of Nevada.

forum group buy?

 

[OverBudget]

Why can’t they put solar farms over parking lots and on buildings in cities instead of open land?

i've been wondering why this hasnt been done yet myself. if my math is right a typical walmart parking lot is big enough to supply power to the walmart and then some by a good amount.

 

[broncorob3]

i've been wondering why this hasnt been done yet myself. if my math is right a typical walmart parking lot is big enough to supply power to the walmart and then some by a good amount.

typically the land where the solar farms are is dirt cheap compared to what you'd have to lease it for where a large parking lot is.

 

[OverBudget]

typically the land where the solar farms are is dirt cheap compared to what you'd have to lease it for where a large parking lot is.

youd think there would be a large benefit for walmart to do it for themselves though, upfront cost would be high(im sure they can manage) but they would then be selling power back to the power companies and not paying for any power themselves. ill admit, i have no idea what the ROI would be on something of this scale though.

 

[crenca]

Wow, you could buy almost half of the state of Nevada.

I think in excess of > 80% of the BLM land in my county (that which is not a "monument") is "for sale".
...yea right.

I usually think of the Blue Ribbon Coalition as the practical/reasonable middle ground, but apparently they are not above the bombastic rhetoric of the status quo around this subject.

These maps are worthless no matter what side you are on.

 

[cansberry]

I think in excess of > 80% of the BLM land in my county (that which is not a "monument") is "for sale".
...yea right.

I usually think of the Blue Ribbon Coalition as the practical/reasonable middle ground, but apparently they are not above the bombastic rhetoric of the status quo around this subject.

These maps are worthless no matter what side you are on.

The maps were created using BLM data on land labels that show if said land is available for public sale. That makes them accurate. How is that bombastic rhetoric?

 

[CV428]

youd think there would be a large benefit for walmart to do it for themselves though, upfront cost would be high(im sure they can manage) but they would then be selling power back to the power companies and not paying for any power themselves. ill admit, i have no idea what the ROI would be on something of this scale though.

I have a 48 panel solar power system with microinverters (24kw). While it does function as intended, the ROIs were blown out of the water by greedy games the utility companies play.

They say "Net metering," and you think "If I generate 2mw and use 1.6mw, I sell 400kw back to the company and pocket a little money." And it works great that way for about 3 months, then the utility company changes their interconnect agreement and solar credit amounts. Oh, and now you have a flat connection fee, and a "because we feel like it" fee, and another fee... Then your imported $/kw goes up, and your credit ratio goes down. What started out as 1:1 is now 1:5 plus fees, so it's friggin' pointless.

5 years ago, I was raking in $80-120/mo from what I was selling back to the grid. Now, with the same system making 99% of the same energy, I'm paying a minimum of $20/mo, upwards of $150/mo (on top of what I pay for solar). What's worse, I even changed out appliances and have higher SEER ratings on my HVAC systems to reduce energy usage and my bill STILL went up. Nothing has changed except policies the stupid energy co-op put in place to screw over people with solar.

I'm actually regretting going solar for this reason. There was no way to predict these rotten changes, and politicians are as useless as they are corrupt, so good luck getting them to tell the energy companies that they can't punish customers with solar. There's nothing inherently wrong with solar. The problem is, for all these rotten politicians push "green energy," they have done NOTHING to protect those who go that direction. My ROI went from 15 years to never, all because some executive jackass woke up and decided to screw us over.

That's probably why you don't see more large systems being built. Unless the interconnect agreement is 1:1 with no flat or hidden fees, solar is pointless. The large solar farms are backroom deals to utilize and pocket subsidies not available to regular homeowners.

This is also why you may start to see solar owners suing the lenders. Lots of solar power companies went belly up, sold their accounts to other businesses, and the warranties went void (this happened to us, and we went with a large reputable company). I looked into it, but SC hasn't opened the doors up for that yet. I'll be the first in line.

 

[OverBudget]

I have a 48 panel solar power system with microinverters (24kw). While it does function as intended, the ROIs were blown out of the water by greedy games the utility companies play.

They say "Net metering," and you think "If I generate 2mw and use 1.6mw, I sell 400kw back to the company and pocket a little money." And it works great that way for about 3 months, then the utility company changes their interconnect agreement and solar credit amounts. Oh, and now you have a flat connection fee, and a "because we feel like it" fee, and another fee... Then your imported $/kw goes up, and your credit ratio goes down. What started out as 1:1 is now 1:5 plus fees, so it's friggin' pointless.

5 years ago, I was raking in $80-120/mo from what I was selling back to the grid. Now, with the same system making 99% of the same energy, I'm paying a minimum of $20/mo, upwards of $150/mo (on top of what I pay for solar). What's worse, I even changed out appliances and have higher SEER ratings on my HVAC systems to reduce energy usage and my bill STILL went up. Nothing has changed except policies the stupid energy co-op put in place to screw over people with solar.

I'm actually regretting going solar for this reason. There was no way to predict these rotten changes, and politicians are as useless as they are corrupt, so good luck getting them to tell the energy companies that they can't punish customers with solar. There's nothing inherently wrong with solar. The problem is, for all these rotten politicians push "green energy," they have done NOTHING to protect those who go that direction. My ROI went from 15 years to never, all because some executive jackass woke up and decided to screw us over.

That's probably why you don't see more large systems being built. Unless the interconnect agreement is 1:1 with no flat or hidden fees, solar is pointless. The large solar farms are backroom deals to utilize and pocket subsidies not available to regular homeowners.

This is also why you may start to see solar owners suing the lenders. Lots of solar power companies went belly up, sold their accounts to other businesses, and the warranties went void (this happened to us, and we went with a large reputable company). I looked into it, but SC hasn't opened the doors up for that yet. I'll be the first in line.

Well damn, that sucks. so it seems the only way to actually do solar beneficially under those circumstances would be to go completely off grid and drop the power company. at least then you're not paying for something that you aren't actually using(assuming your able to run 100% on solar all year). but the ROI goal post would still move to outside your lifetime without being able to sell back to the grid. such a shame. i despise "flat rate" fees on services, happened with our water a few years ago, went from only using maybe 30$ a month to having to pay 60$ due to an added flat rate for the service regardless of how little water you use.

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