Observations and more questions

[Ford2201]

I purchased a 2022 non-sasquatch black diamond with the 2.7 engine. Absolutely love it. As most of us on here I wanted a little lift and larger tires. So on went the SVC 2” perch collars and BGG 285/75R17 on the stock rims. First observation with the collars was no more brake dive in the front end. Also noticed a stiffer ride. The added height from the lift and tires put me where I wanted to be.

As the miles added up and more off-road equipment was added I noticed the rear looks lower. About 1/2” -3/4” lover than the front ( measured from top to tire to flare and also ground to flare). I realized that the E rated BFG’s are stiffer so I lowered my tire pressure to 34 psi. Still seems stiff and speed bumps feel like the tire is “pushed” down as you ride over them.

I’ve searched and read dozens of threads on there regarding lifts, suspension, modifications and ride expectations. In my mind I think I’d like to go to Eibach truck pro 2 coil overs. But as I read I developed more questions than thorough understanding of which way I wanted to go.

The SVC collars “preload” the spring and generates lift. And from what I can feel adds stiffness. Is that a fair analysis?

the Eibach coilovers are adjustable height. Does that make them similar in “preload” like the collars? Many member have said they eliminated brake dive (I like that) and they can be adjusted to level out or slightly “rake” the stance ( also like). My question is will the ride still feel stiff? Or do the springs soften the ride? Should I go lower psi in

I should note I’m east coast. My off-roading consists of beach driving and forest fire service roads. I don’t rock crawl nor do I plan to. The rear locker is sufficient for my needs (beach and forest).

My wish is to have around 2-2.5” of lift. Slight rake. A comfortable ride. Doubtful I’d go bigger than 35” tires in the future. Most likely to stay with 285/75.

I installed the collars myself and would do the same with the Eibachs. I’m comfortable with wrenching. But total understanding of how to meet my desires without doing it half assed or wrong is where I look for help.

Any info and clarification would be greatly appreciated.

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[RagnarKon]

The SVC collars “preload” the spring and generates lift. And from what I can feel adds stiffness. Is that a fair analysis?

Yes.

In a way it gives the Bronco more of a truck feel and less of an off-road SUV feel. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, since many trucks have leaf springs in the rear end to handle added weight rather than coilovers. But overall, the suspension becomes stiffer.

the Eibach coilovers are adjustable height. Does that make them similar in “preload” like the collars?

Yes, they effectively adjustable perch collars.

Also FYI: when you swap out the coilovers with the Eibachs you should also get an alignment done. And if you're lifting beyond 2" you may also want to consider new upper control arms. ~2-2.5" is right around the limit you can get away with before swapping the upper control arms, so don't be surprised if they have some trouble aligning it.

 

[Ford2201]

Ragnarkon

thanks for the reply. Just trying to get a handle on which direction I’d like to go. Hopeful the Eibach springs limit the dive and soften the ride over the perch collars.

when I did the collars they were 2” and got it aligned afterwards. They had no problem. I’ll keep the UVA’s in mind though when I go that toute

 

[Buckingbronco2024]

I purchased a 2022 non-sasquatch black diamond with the 2.7 engine. Absolutely love it. As most of us on here I wanted a little lift and larger tires. So on went the SVC 2” perch collars and BGG 285/75R17 on the stock rims. First observation with the collars was no more brake dive in the front end. Also noticed a stiffer ride. The added height from the lift and tires put me where I wanted to be.

As the miles added up and more off-road equipment was added I noticed the rear looks lower. About 1/2” -3/4” lover than the front ( measured from top to tire to flare and also ground to flare). I realized that the E rated BFG’s are stiffer so I lowered my tire pressure to 34 psi. Still seems stiff and speed bumps feel like the tire is “pushed” down as you ride over them.

I’ve searched and read dozens of threads on there regarding lifts, suspension, modifications and ride expectations. In my mind I think I’d like to go to Eibach truck pro 2 coil overs. But as I read I developed more questions than thorough understanding of which way I wanted to go.

The SVC collars “preload” the spring and generates lift. And from what I can feel adds stiffness. Is that a fair analysis?

the Eibach coilovers are adjustable height. Does that make them similar in “preload” like the collars? Many member have said they eliminated brake dive (I like that) and they can be adjusted to level out or slightly “rake” the stance ( also like). My question is will the ride still feel stiff? Or do the springs soften the ride? Should I go lower psi in

I should note I’m east coast. My off-roading consists of beach driving and forest fire service roads. I don’t rock crawl nor do I plan to. The rear locker is sufficient for my needs (beach and forest).

My wish is to have around 2-2.5” of lift. Slight rake. A comfortable ride. Doubtful I’d go bigger than 35” tires in the future. Most likely to stay with 285/75.

I installed the collars myself and would do the same with the Eibachs. I’m comfortable with wrenching. But total understanding of how to meet my desires without doing it half assed or wrong is where I look for help.

Any info and clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Great looking rig!

 

[Ford2201]

Thank you. Just gotta figure out this ride, lift and slight sag

 

[userdude]

Looks nice. What did you do to the top? Has it held up?

 

[indio22]

Anyone know the softest suspension available? I've read suggestions that the stock Wildtrak Sas suspension is one of the softer rides. And that many aftermarket setups are firmer than that. I don't have much to compare it to, but my stock 2-door base suspension seems a bit on the firmer side.

 

[Rumbloki]

The problem is the E load tires, not the collars.
Regarding sag, did you install the big collar and the thin collar up front?
I only used the four thick collars.

 

[Ford2201]

Looks nice. What did you do to the top? Has it held up?

3m vinyl wrap. InstalledJune 2022. Holding up well so far

 

[Ford2201]

The problem is the E load tires, not the collars.
Regarding sag, did you install the big collar and the thin collar up front?
I only used the four thick collars.

SVC collars were all the same. After install it was perfect. Has now settled to a slight sag

 

[userdude]

3m vinyl wrap. InstalledJune 2022. Holding up well so far

Interesting. Did you ever do a thread on it? Lots of folks think the top won't work with vinyl longer than a few months. I suspect once people get out of the 36m warranty and develop cracks/whatnot, applying vinyl might be the go to. Plus the people who want an alternate color.

 

[Rumbloki]

SVC collars were all the same. After install it was perfect. Has now settled to a slight sag

I see. At some point they started shipping 6 pieces to adjust for added weight on either end.

 

[Ford2201]

Rumbloki, thanks

that is correct. I spoke with them regarding my issue and they sent the add in spacer. However as I discovered and they confirmed those add ons were sasquatch only. I’m a non-sas so they were no help. They also indicated they do not make them nor are they planning to.

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