Need help identifying this plug on Ford harness # M2DT15K867CE

[Muffin1]

It terminates near the drivers side OE fog light behind the plastic bumper then would plug into another harness(which i don't have or do any have that didn't get factory fogs).
I want the female so i can connect to it, then cut off that end to connect to the Brown, Yellow/orange, powered wires of C203 thereby leaving that OE harness uncut.
And the third wire BLK/GR i would ground to the frame.
I purchased this harness with the factory Valeo fogs & new/used headlight switch with the push able button.
If i have no choice to cut off that plug and hard wire it

i will, but prefer to have a pigtail connect to C203 wires but not at both ends.
TIA,
Rob.

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[Squirrel13]

Make take some research but you should be able to find it in here since you know there is a mating harness on the other side.

https://www.fordservicecontent.com/pubs/content/connectors/images/connectorcatalog.pdf

 

[flip]

So, you just need the female terminals to go in the backside of that connector? The fog wires coming out of C203 are generally in the vehicle (male) side of the one you have pictured (C192), just not continuing through it.

If I can figure out which terminals they are and make up a few pig tails, do you feel comfortable in your ability to install them? Generally just a matter of pulling the white locking sleeve forward then pushing the terminals in from the back until they seat/"click" then pushing the locking sleeve forward.

I have a crap ton of terminals and think it's one I've used before. Wires may not be the correct colors but would allow you to not have to buy the whole pigtail and connector.

 

[Muffin1]

Hey thanks for the reply's and the great catalog link, the plug is a 10 pin and has 'Delphi' embossed on it, i needed a mag glass to see it's so small.
Anyway i wanted to finish up the job today and reinstall everything so i cut off the plug and used posi-loks to connect the 3 wires and sealed over with shrink tube.
I made the Forscan changes and the fogs work perfectly, only thing there is no 'green' light indicator on the IP like for the headlights, found that strange that there would be a different IP panel for non fog light equipped trucks.
Anyway thanks for the tips & info.

 

[Ducati1098]

only thing there is no 'green' light indicator on the IP like for the headlights, found that strange that there would be a different IP panel for non fog light equipped trucks.

Probably something missed programming wise in forscan. Definitely isn’t a whole different cluster just for fog lights.

 

[zuke]

If I can figure out which terminals they are and make up a few pig tails, do you feel comfortable in your ability to install them?

If you figure out what the correct pins are and what the part number is for them, I'd love to know

I tried like three different pins last time I did this, and never figured it out, finally giving up and cutting the wires on the ECU side...

Getting ready to do it again on my new (to me) Bronco, and would like to do it right this time.

 

[flip]

Pretty sure it's a Molex MX150. I have a harness in my office and some loose terminals from my stash, just need to put a wire on it and make sure it locks and the male side makes good contact.

Don't order any, if these are correct I'll send you some.

 

[zuke]

Pretty sure it's a Molex MX150. I have a harness in my office and some loose terminals from my stash, just need to put a wire on it and make sure it locks and the male side makes good contact.

Don't order any, if these are correct I'll send you some.

Looked those up, they definitely look right, I guess my mistake was trying to look them up as a Ford part...

Thanks a ton, @flip

 

[Muffin1]

Probably something missed programming wise in forscan. Definitely isn’t a whole different cluster just for fog lights.

That was my thinking also when it wasn't showing after activating the fogs in the BCM, i rechecked after your suggestion and i got everything set correct in BCM then looked at a couple of the other modules, went into the IPC and found the Rear fog indicator scrolled back up and found Front fog lamps (no 'indicator' word) like the rears so i tried enabling and success. (Sorry for the bad laptop screen image)
Thanks Ducati1098 for that tip.

 

[Muffin1]

If you figure out what the correct pins are and what the part number is for them, I'd love to know

I tried like three different pins last time I did this, and never figured it out, finally giving up and cutting the wires on the ECU side...

Getting ready to do it again on my new (to me) Bronco, and would like to do it right this time.

Not sure if this helps you out for your mod but here is a closeup of the plug if your trying to get a similar,

 

[flip]

Looked those up, they definitely look right, I guess my mistake was trying to look them up as a Ford part...

Thanks a ton, @flip

I had a contact at Ford in that department several years ago that retired and now his replacement. When I get into a pinch and can't come up with the mfgr I reach out to him and he gives me the supplier name, series and p/n. It's amazing how many hardshell connectors use the same type of terminals and have for decades.

I've accumulated a bunch of reference material from Ford and suppliers like Delphi, Molex, Yazaki, TE, etc. that I've used to reverse engineer the Ford part. Most of the connectors have a makers mark on them, some have actual part numbers that you can plug into google, then cross in their (suppliers) catalogue.

 

[orion]

So, you just need the female terminals to go in the backside of that connector? The fog wires coming out of C203 are generally in the vehicle (male) side of the one you have pictured (C192), just not continuing through it.

If I can figure out which terminals they are and make up a few pig tails, do you feel comfortable in your ability to install them? Generally just a matter of pulling the white locking sleeve forward then pushing the terminals in from the back until they seat/"click" then pushing the locking sleeve forward.

I have a crap ton of terminals and think it's one I've used before. Wires may not be the correct colors but would allow you to not have to buy the whole pigtail and connector.

So, I got a '21 Black Diamond, bought a front and rear fog light switch, got the fogs working on dash. What I want to do @flip is de-pin the C203 fog light wires and re-pin them in a new connector so that I could make my own harness since mine fog wires stop at C203. Do you have any suggestions on what connector I would need to buy and pins for said connector?

 

[flip]

The pic you had was for C192 which is after C203 which I have pictured below.

On the female C203 pins 43 and 48 are two fog circuits and use the same AU5T-14474-CA which is service part DU2Z-14474-DA, Motorcraft kit WT-1003.

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