F150, Ford, Rachael Maddow Dont get mad, give it a watch [Off-Topic / Political posts will be deleted - Administration]

[PowPow]

I'm not entirely sold on the idea that electric vehicles are "greener" or "better". The manufacturing process requires a lot of raw materials and processes that aren't "green". How "green" are the power plants? How many more power plants will we need? Anybody think about battery disposal? I'm not sure we're ready for this transformation... Just my 2 cents...

maybe... but we can't wait till it's perfect. Any steps in the right direction are going to make it better.

Remember? The first iphone couldn't send texts... so it wasn't perfect at first, but they kept innovating.

Plus you say they aren't that green, and they may not be 'totally' green. But greener than oil & gas. So sure you might be trading one evil for another, right now. But this is the future, and it's only going to be better. Oil & Gas has run its course... I'm pretty sure they've gotten the most of it they're going to get. Electric is the future.

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[Jdc]

"The Bronco is super cute though"...LOL

Hah, I got a kick out of that one too

 

[MaverickMan]

"The Bronco is super cute though"...LOL

Face palm! I know I know lol.


Hey it looks like about 100 people have viewed this should I add a poll to see how many watched the video?

 

[MaverickMan]

maybe... but we can't wait till it's perfect. Any steps in the right direction are going to make it better.

Remember? The first iphone couldn't send texts... so it wasn't perfect at first, but they kept innovating.

Plus you say they aren't that green, and they may not be 'totally' green. But greener than oil & gas. So sure you might be trading one evil for another, right now. But this is the future, and it's only going to be better. Oil & Gas has run its course... I'm pretty sure they've gotten the most of it they're going to get. Electric is the future.

BP, Shell, Exxon and the rest agree with this if you look at their investment portfolios.

 

[brentutk]

Great video with a ton of knowledge and Ford perspective.

 

[Bronconheimer]

She's definitely right about one thing. It won't be "green" sensibility that drives people towards electric vehicles, it'll be cool features like built-in generators, ridiculous 0-60 times, monstrous torque, and the ability to cheaply charge the vehicles. The infrastructure will eventually catch up with demand the same way gas stations popped up in the early 1900's.

 

[Bt_ostate]

Petroleum and coal produce most of the electric and what do you do with all the battery waste? The battery cell in the f250 is supposed to weigh over 800 lbs. Further it takes special suits and equipment to work on the vehicles in the event of an accident as electrocution is a possibility. No one seems to mention any of these things. Where do you charge them in rural stretches with big expanses of nothing and no towns for 100s of miles??

Might be an answer for certain circumstances but not for the masses particularly in middle or rural america.

 

[Username_not_found]

Oil and gas pay their own way plus some.

They're massively subsidized so I'm not sure it's fair to say they pay their own way plus some.

 

[1936Ford3W]

I’m all for technological advances but I hope in the race to electric it’s done responsibly. I feel like many of the auto makers are shooting for 2030 to be mostly electric. Mining lithium is not a very green process and there are many articles on the interwebs about it. I hope research on biofuels such as using algae keep going cause I need to put something in the tanks of my classic cars.

 

[Username_not_found]

Petroleum and coal produce most of the electric and what do you do with all the battery waste? The battery cell in the f250 is supposed to weigh over 800 lbs. Further it takes special suits and equipment to work on the vehicles in the event of an accident as electrocution is a possibility. No one seems to mention any of these things. Where do you charge them in rural stretches with big expanses of nothing and no towns for 100s of miles??

Might be an answer for certain circumstances but not for the masses particularly in middle or rural america.

I mean the number one thing people seem to talk about with battery electric vehicles is convenience and ability to charge. It's not a flip that will be switched overnight. Infrastructure will grow with the wider adoption of the vehicle. The landscape for electric vehicles is at an inflection point and will begin changing much more rapidly than before.

Battery recycling will become much more prevalent as battery and resource needs become greater.

Maintenance will be something the industry will need to adapt to, but a major benefit of batter powered vehicles is significantly fewer moving parts so from a consumer standpoint the need for maintenance should be much less and less frequent.

It's not perfect now and has lots of questions to address as you've brought up, but waiting to commit until every single question has a solution in place is too late. The industry will find solutions to problems as it develops and grows.

 

[Username_not_found]

I’m all for technological advances but I hope in the race to electric it’s done responsibly. I feel like many of the auto makers are shooting for 2030 to be mostly electric. Mining lithium is not a very green process and there are many articles on the interwebs about it. I hope research on biofuels such as using algae keep going cause I need to put something in the tanks of my classic cars.

Good news: "Porsche's Synthetic eFuel Could Make ICE Cars as Clean as EVs" https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp35577611/porsche-synthetic-efuel-clean-emissions-testing/

 

[Deleted member 21681]

I'm not entirely sold on the idea that electric vehicles are "greener" or "better". The manufacturing process requires a lot of raw materials and processes that aren't "green". How "green" are the power plants? How many more power plants will we need? Anybody think about battery disposal? I'm not sure we're ready for this transformation... Just my 2 cents...

It’s only “greener” if you never stop to consider that, for many (if not most) of us, electricity is coal-generated. So, at the moment, “electric vehicle” is generally a euphemism for “coal-powered vehicle.” Sort of shoots the “anti fossil-fuel” argument right in the nuts. By all means, innovate. Increase efficiency. But we aren’t there right now and anyone that says we are is... trying to be charitable here... a bit under-informed regarding the operations of the world around them.

 

[Bt_ostate]

I mean the number one thing people seem to talk about with battery electric vehicles is convenience and ability to charge. It's not a flip that will be switched overnight. Infrastructure will grow with the wider adoption of the vehicle. The landscape for electric vehicles is at an inflection point and will begin changing much more rapidly than before.

Battery recycling will become much more prevalent as battery and resource needs become greater.

Maintenance will be something the industry will need to adapt to, but a major benefit of batter powered vehicles is significantly fewer moving parts so from a consumer standpoint the need for maintenance should be much less and less frequent.

It's not perfect now and has lots of questions to address as you've brought up, but waiting to commit until every single question has a solution in place is too late. The industry will find solutions to problems as it develops and grows.

Rural America is not going to be able to have charging stations every 30 miles or so in the middle of no where. Great for fleets or big city folks but not anywhere else. And it really won't be much greener with battery disposal and Petroleum or coal generating most of the electricity grid.

Just trading one evil for another.

 

[Fordmanbob]

I'm not entirely sold on the idea that electric vehicles are "greener" or "better". The manufacturing process requires a lot of raw materials and processes that aren't "green". How "green" are the power plants? How many more power plants will we need? Anybody think about battery disposal? I'm not sure we're ready for this transformation... Just my 2 cents...

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[vrtical]

Rural America is not going to be able to have charging stations every 30 miles or so in the middle of no where. Great for fleets or big city folks but not anywhere else. And it really won't be much greener with battery disposal and Petroleum or coal generating most of the electricity grid.

Just trading one evil for another.

every 50 miles coming to TN.

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