EXPECT FURTHER DELAYS - More auto semiconductor chip problems

[Skdmarc]

can someone confirm if Ford is affected?

It kind of sucks - with these other delays - the 2.7 and Sasq materials will all be in ready supply by the time they get the chips. I skipped on those for earlier delivery, I would be bummed to know I could have Sasq'd without delays.

Sadly all manufacturers are affected

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[Rover72]

Possible chip or other delay solutions -
adjust and embrace murphy's law - that keeps showing up
IMO the pandemic, assorted civil unrest events has proven to be good training with regard to learning to be patient and resilient. Screw worrying about shipping problems, chip factory fires or any sort of delay, we will still be here ready to go when the delivery day arrives. OORAH!!

Alternatively - stay positive, buy a used Jeep, chop it and install IFS to tide you over while you wait or just Mad Max any old vehicle you find inspirational as a fix for the time being.
I'm thinking of chopping the back off a Prius and making a Scramble version, HAD THIS IDEA FOR YEARS Happy Easter!

 

[Hoofnmouth]

 

[That_Hal]

Excellent read about the current chip shortage.
Que the dumbass joke about potato chips

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-semiconductors-chips-shortage/?sref=ExbtjcSG

 

[Quinn_the_eskimo]

I was also thinking - anyone guess what a high demand, low supply issue might turn into? My worry is a flood of poor-quality parts as the production tries to meet demand. Imagine a fry cook making burgers with a line of 100 people around the corner. Someone's gonna get food poisoning.

 

[TheBuster15]

I was also thinking - anyone guess what a high demand, low supply issue might turn into? My worry is a flood of poor-quality parts as the production tries to meet demand. Imagine a fry cook making burgers with a line of 100 people around the corner. Someone's gonna get food poisoning.

There are checks in place to prevent that. All because there is a chip shortage does not mean that faulty parts make it through the quality checks.

 

[Quinn_the_eskimo]

There are checks in place to prevent that. All because there is a chip shortage does not mean that faulty parts make it through the quality checks.

One would hope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

 

[TheBuster15]

One would hope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

If they were going to break like the link above it would happen independently of the shortage.

 

[North7]

If they were going to break like the link above it would happen independently of the shortage.

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

 

[vrtical]

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

we gonna get some overclocked Broncos

 

[TheBuster15]

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

They said nothing like the above post. He suggested that we would make mistakes in building them too fast trying to catch up. I believe they likened it to a line cook making a hamburger.
You can’t assume that Ford is going to accept Lower grade silicon for their parts. That would require a complete DV/PV which would result in potentially longer delays than just waiting for the supply base to catch up.

I am only trying to help other users not freak out that they are getting shitty silicon when there are checks in place to prevent that.

 

[ilbastarge]

we gonna get some overclocked Broncos

That's what they meant by Hi level IP!

 

[North7]

They said nothing like the above post. He suggested that we would make mistakes in building them too fast trying to catch up. I believe they likened it to a line cook making a hamburger.
You can’t assume that Ford is going to accept Lower grade silicon for their parts. That would require a complete DV/PV which would result in potentially longer delays than just waiting for the supply base to catch up.

I am only trying to help other users not freak out that they are getting shitty silicon when there are checks in place to prevent that.

In another real time example of hamburger binning, rare, medium or well down. I recently purchased a new Dell laptop. I then bought a second power supply from a vendor, that I thought was a genuine Dell part, they advertised the Dell part number, but what I was sent was a power supply that looked nearly 100% identical but was made by Flextronics, a Dell supplier.

Now that I've used it for a month, when it is charging and I'm running several programs, it gets hot and shuts off. What I'm guessing is these failed the binning test on units to ship to Dell and the lower grade units get shipped to liquidators, third party sellers, Ebay sellers, etc. Sure I got it for a good price but now I have to return it for another unit.

 

[TheBuster15]

In another real time example of hamburger binning, rare, medium or well down. I recently purchased a new Dell laptop. I then bought a second power supply from a vendor, that I thought was a genuine Dell part, they advertised the Dell part number, but what I was sent was a power supply that looked nearly 100% identical but was made by Flextronics, a Dell supplier.

Now that I've used it for a month, when it is charging and I'm running several programs, it gets hot and shuts off. What I'm guessing is these failed the binning test on units to ship to Dell and the lower grade units get shipped to liquidators, third party sellers, Ebay sellers, etc. Sure I got it for a good price but now I have to return it for another unit.

You are spending too much time on the build and price tool. How many bronco builds per charger are you cranking out?

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