EXPECT FURTHER DELAYS - More auto semiconductor chip problems

[Hoofnmouth]

What really happened ...

Thats the good one not that new fuked up pit bull face

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[3Dogs]

in fact, the trailers are often fabricated to become a literal extension of the plant itself...with a built in conveyor system which feeds parts to assembly workers once the trailer backs in. So the part is installed literally seconds after removal....there's no such thing as inventory any more.

I’d be willing to bet that Ford plants don’t receive “chips” at all.
Any sub-assembly using them is already manufactured and tested before it is delivered to the Ford assembly line.

 

[Skdmarc]

can someone confirm if Ford is affected?

It kind of sucks - with these other delays - the 2.7 and Sasq materials will all be in ready supply by the time they get the chips. I skipped on those for earlier delivery, I would be bummed to know I could have Sasq'd without delays.

Sadly all manufacturers are affected

 

[Rover72]

Possible chip or other delay solutions -
adjust and embrace murphy's law - that keeps showing up
IMO the pandemic, assorted civil unrest events has proven to be good training with regard to learning to be patient and resilient. Screw worrying about shipping problems, chip factory fires or any sort of delay, we will still be here ready to go when the delivery day arrives. OORAH!!

Alternatively - stay positive, buy a used Jeep, chop it and install IFS to tide you over while you wait or just Mad Max any old vehicle you find inspirational as a fix for the time being.
I'm thinking of chopping the back off a Prius and making a Scramble version, HAD THIS IDEA FOR YEARS Happy Easter!

 

[Hoofnmouth]

 

[That_Hal]

Excellent read about the current chip shortage.
Que the dumbass joke about potato chips

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-semiconductors-chips-shortage/?sref=ExbtjcSG

 

[Quinn_the_eskimo]

I was also thinking - anyone guess what a high demand, low supply issue might turn into? My worry is a flood of poor-quality parts as the production tries to meet demand. Imagine a fry cook making burgers with a line of 100 people around the corner. Someone's gonna get food poisoning.

 

[TheBuster15]

I was also thinking - anyone guess what a high demand, low supply issue might turn into? My worry is a flood of poor-quality parts as the production tries to meet demand. Imagine a fry cook making burgers with a line of 100 people around the corner. Someone's gonna get food poisoning.

There are checks in place to prevent that. All because there is a chip shortage does not mean that faulty parts make it through the quality checks.

 

[Quinn_the_eskimo]

There are checks in place to prevent that. All because there is a chip shortage does not mean that faulty parts make it through the quality checks.

One would hope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

 

[TheBuster15]

One would hope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

If they were going to break like the link above it would happen independently of the shortage.

 

[North7]

If they were going to break like the link above it would happen independently of the shortage.

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

 

[vrtical]

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

we gonna get some overclocked Broncos

 

[TheBuster15]

I think the point @Quinn_the_eskimo is trying to make is that during manufacture of semiconductors they are tested for various parameters. If they do not meet some baseline they are discarded. However, if they change this baseline, lower it for example, to allow more parts to pass, then they could ship at a higher quantity.

This is known as binning, it is used for CPU's, GPU's, RAM, LED's, etc. When you buy different power level Intel processors for your computer as an example, say an Intel i5/i7/i9, the different speed levels are sold as they were binned that way, they can sell the higher performers at a premium and the lower performers as the bargains, you get a deal and they don't have to through away as many chips.

Explainer: What Is Chip Binning?

They said nothing like the above post. He suggested that we would make mistakes in building them too fast trying to catch up. I believe they likened it to a line cook making a hamburger.
You can’t assume that Ford is going to accept Lower grade silicon for their parts. That would require a complete DV/PV which would result in potentially longer delays than just waiting for the supply base to catch up.

I am only trying to help other users not freak out that they are getting shitty silicon when there are checks in place to prevent that.

 

[ilbastarge]

we gonna get some overclocked Broncos

That's what they meant by Hi level IP!

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