Current commodity lists

[bjellefs]

2.3L with auto is my preferred build. After reading multiple reviews of the 2.3L's performance, its apparent that it's nothing to sneeze at. In addition, the 2.7L is only 40hp stronger. At $1895 premium for the 2.7L, that's $47 per HP. However, the real deal breaker for me with the 2.7L is it's on the constrained availability list. I sure as hell don't want to delay getting my vehicle by a month or longer just for 40HP. I'll make that up and more in a tune.

That is true, if you only look at HP it is a bad deal, but they are fundamentally different engines and HP is only a fraction of the story. The 2.7 has 100 more torque and a different shaped power curve that will provide more power at lower RPMs. In addition, the twin turbo setup on the 2.7 should "Theoretically" reduce turbo lag. Throttle response is always one of my biggest complaints with a car. When I push the pedal, I want it to go, so hopefully the 2.7 will be better than the 2.3 in this regard.

Overall, yes, the engine stats are not that different, which is probably why we kept hearing in the KOH videos that you couldn't feel the difference in power (Probably true above 25-30 mph). However, I would be willing to put some money down that they do feel very different starting from a stopped position or accelerating at low speeds. Turbo lag should be more noticeable on the 2.3.

If that doesn't bother you, then you have chosen wisely because 1900 is a steep asking price. Considering this will probably the the only car I custom order in my life and hopefully keep for a very long time, I don't want any regrets. I can swallow 1900 over 5 years for no regrets. I am sure everyone will love whatever engine they choose, I just don't want to be sitting my car every day thinking what if?

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[Moparguy]

I just don't want to be sitting my car every day thinking what if?

You know this happened to me with my charger RT, I should've got the 6.4, I loved the car but I always said what if! after that, I will never get less than what I need.

My build has 2.7L, based on the poor communication from my dealers, I am almost positive my 7/16 reservation is 2022, that's a very long time already without considering any commodity, I have mid but considering upgrading to High, which may end up being a commodity as well, I am at my 19th car right now, the Bronco was the 1st car that I wanted so bad to the point where I am reserving, willing to buy new and even pay MSRP for but every day my dream of getting one is being pushed further and further.

 

[swooshdave]

You know this happened to me with my charger RT, I should've got the 6.4, I loved the car but I always said what if! after that, I will never get less than what I need.

My build has 2.7L, based on the poor communication from my dealers, I am almost positive my 7/16 reservation is 2022, that's a very long time already without considering any commodity, I have mid but considering upgrading to High, which may end up being a commodity as well, I am at my 19th car right now, the Bronco was the 1st car that I wanted so bad to the point where I am reserving, willing to buy new and even pay MSRP for but every day my dream of getting one is being pushed further and further.

We are all there with you. Care less about what the dealer is telling you and more about what happens when Ford actually starts scheduling the builds. That will be more telling. At this point it's 100% conjecture as there are far too many variables. What would matter now is how many Broncos your dealer is allocated initially and how many orders they have. But even that will change when they get their final allocation.

 

[broadicustomworks]

4 door Big bend 2.3L auto with soft top. - they are really pushing this build, ain't they?

Guess it will only be available in 2021 - and even then, it will be the rarest of builds since no one wants it.

Can we dub it the "Edsel build"?

I'll give you a whole dollar if you get an Edsel logo badge and apply it on your Bronco.

 

[tritonx100]

Ford's planning must really suck if they didn't anticipate popularity of these features.

So....is everything above a 'base' just a tease??

i never thought anyone with a week 1 order would have to wait until my22. But clearly if you don’t have a first edition you won’t be seeing the squatch

 

[EvlNvrDys]

Our Ecommitment packet for this month (allocation), had a small note for Bronco

It was listed as "early trends", so could end up differently, but based on my orders I can see these options having issues and this warning coming true when scheduling starts.

Most Restricted commodities:
Wildtrak
2.7L
Full Time 4x4 (advanced 4x4)
Level 2 and 4 equipment groups (mid and lux)
Sasquatch
front locker
Modular front bumper

It also had the recommended order of a 4 door Big bend 2.3L auto with soft top.


They also announced some new Bronco SPORT packages coming out for Big Bend and Outer Banks to get the option package without the moonroof to help with commodity issues, so gives me hope they'll do some things on Bronco if the commodities make scheduling a complete nightmare (33s on OBX would help several of my orders).

My big questions is (even more so since I Didn't go thru all 5 pages)
I've been hearing rumors the sasquatch delay is going to be due to wheels.

And if that's true, then maybe Ford dumps the ugly Squatch wheels and opts for something else...

Like maybe some Outlaw II's

 

[PSUTE]

Only vehicle I've been excited about in decades. 1st 24 reservation. Getting it when I do....

 

[Cased]

My big questions is (even more so since I Didn't go thru all 5 pages)
I've been hearing rumors the sasquatch delay is going to be due to wheels.

And if that's true, then maybe Ford dumps the ugly Squatch wheels and opts for something else...

Like maybe some Outlaw II's

They can put mine on some space saver spares and roll it off the truck

Put 2500 back in my pocket we'll call it square

Hell I'll even bring the spares back

 

[Dane]

Soooooo.....pretty much everything!!!

 

[Rubisquatch]

@XCR440 Based on your insight and knowledge, what is the individual component in the Sasquatch package that likely is causing the possible commodity constraint of the Sasquatch package? Wheels, tires, locker, 4A, wide flares?

 

[XCR440]

@XCR440 Based on your insight and knowledge, what is the individual component in the Sasquatch package that likely is causing the possible commodity constraint of the Sasquatch package? Wheels, tires, locker, 4A, wide flares?

I'd guess there's a limit on all the above, but my bet is Fuel economy causing the main limit with tires being my second guess. We fight getting 20" tires on F-150 all the time due to constraints, you wouldn't think tires would be an issue, but they continually are.

 

[Tonka Bronka]

And if the 40% order conversions that many dealers are seeing hold true, I can’t imagine all these commodity constraints holding true, unless like you said Ford shit the bed with planning...

Is that true? Only 40% conversion? That’s what a $100 reservation will get you, tire kickers!

 

[Rubisquatch]

I'd guess there's a limit on all the above, but my bet is Fuel economy causing the main limit with tires being my second guess. We fight getting 20" tires on F-150 all the time due to constraints, you wouldn't think tires would be an issue, but they continually are.

Thanks, but not sure I follow you - what do you mean fuel economy would be causing ’the main limit’/commodity delays?

 

[XCR440]

Thanks, but not sure I follow you - what do you mean fuel economy would be causing ’the main limit’/commodity delays?

CAFE Corporate average fuel economy. https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/corporate-average-fuel-economy

Now its a safe bet that a Sasquatch will get much worse mileage than a standard Bronco, 35" tires take fuel to sling around and 4.7 gears aren't going to help either.


Look at the Ranger Tremor package, drops mileage from 20 city/24 highway to 19 city and 19 highway,

 

[Rubisquatch]

CAFE Corporate average fuel economy. https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/corporate-average-fuel-economy

Now its a safe bet that a Sasquatch will get much worse mileage than a standard Bronco, 35" tires take fuel to sling around and 4.7 gears aren't going to help either.


Look at the Ranger Tremor package, drops mileage from 20 city/24 highway to 19 city and 19 highway,

Thank you, and I get that, but why would that cause a delay? So we all know mileage will be less but how would Ford’s mpg rating on trims with 35” tires equal less access to wheels, tires, lockers? So again, can you elaborate how CAFE impacts the commodity constraint?

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