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I have a fairly new, year old diesel pusher motorhome that cost as much as 7 Broncos. It sits parked outside at least 50% of the time and sometimes for 3 - 4 months straight and I’ve never even though about “lot rot”.

Seems like another made up 6G problem 6G for some to fret over…..
Not sure about the term “lot rot“, but that’s exactly what is happening to your motor home that cost “7 Broncos”. It will be worth 2 Broncos if your lucky in 3 years. But you already know that.
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Any veterans or active duty want to chime in about your nice new vehicles sitting for years potentially?
Sitting in long term while I’m out humping it in the sand is vastly different than a car sitting in factory lot for a couple of months.


Edit: I’ll expand on this in fact. I had a new 2001 F150 that had something like 5600 miles on it that I parked in long term storage out in Stewart. I had skeeter wings when I parked it. Just under 4.5 years later I drove back out to Georgia to finally pick it up with chevrons and rockers. I brought a jump pack and some fresh fuel. I dumped the high oct, fresh fuel in on top of the treated fuel and hooked up the jumper pack. It fired right up. It didn’t idle awesome for a while because of the super old fuel but ran fine. I spent the next half hour clearing weeds and brush that grew around it and on the bed cover. Cleared out some nests from the engine bay and tried to move it. The brakes had absolutely rusted up. I rocked it back and forth between the gears and eventually broke them free. They sounded awful when I was just driving let alone stopping. I just jumped on the brakes hard several times at a decent speed and the noise went away. Yes they still pulsated horribly when breaking but I hooked up a trailer with my Mustang and PCS’ed. Replace the brakes when I got to my new posting. Eventually. lol

Yes lot rot is sort of a thing but it is generally on wear items or things that are generally already going to be a “consumable.”

And sitting for a few months is not going to rot anything out. If it did then the car should never have existed.
 
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I’m not sure why people think lot rot is fiction. Look it up. Brake rotors are one of the most likely components to need resurfacing from corrosion if sitting too long.
 

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There needs to be an app/setting on the fob that isolates the battery/shuts off the electronic bullshit that runs when it's shut off. My 10 year old Sierra with no OnStar is still starting off of the factory battery. But then again, an app/setting on the fob would require require the electronic bullshit to run. Anyone still know how to operate a 7/16 wrench???
Fords go into sleep mode that shut off certain things when the vehicle isn't used in a while. You can't shut everything off or the computer settings will be lost.
 

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Fords go into sleep mode that shut off certain things when the vehicle isn't used in a while. You can't shut everything off or the computer settings will be lost.
What computer settings? These are solid state. Sure the active trouble codes would likely but lost but if the problem persists it will be retriggered.
 

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What computer settings? These are solid state. Sure the active trouble codes would likely but lost but if the problem persists it will be retriggered.
I've seen videos of batteries being changed and they connect an auxiliary power source while the battery is disconnected.
Will changing the battery affect the on-board computers?
It shouldn’t, but some computers may experience a reset or memory loss. Damage can occur if disconnecting the battery produces a high-voltage energy spike.
 

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I've seen videos of batteries being changed and they connect an auxiliary power source while the battery is disconnected.
Will changing the battery affect the on-board computers?
It shouldn’t, but some computers may experience a reset or memory loss. Damage can occur if disconnecting the battery produces a high-voltage energy spike.
You realize those are two very different and opposite things right?

-loss of power
-energy spike

I routinely disconnect batteries from cars for long periods of time and nothing happens. Heck I have a Mustang with a “custom tune” that I will pull the battery out of for the entire winter (7 months or so) and leave the battery on a tender. Toss it back in in the spring and she is right as rain and ready to go.
 

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What computer settings? These are solid state. Sure the active trouble codes would likely but lost but if the problem persists it will be retriggered.
Solid state failure is as likely to happen on the first start up as the thousandth. It either works or it doesn't...
 

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I think everyone here should be concerned with their mental health during this long haul. Lot rot is not a concern but mental rot. The so called concern (lot rot) from bronco6g is really ridiculous.

if you can’t handle the wait mentally then cancel your reservation.
 
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They will not scrap them. But they also will not ship them with roofs they knowingly see as bad. Liability is a huge issue in our litigious society. Plus the cost of shipping hundreds or thousands of roofs to dealers for replacement would be cost prohibitive. Sure, some may sneak through and be handled via warranty claims but I wouldn’t expect that to be the norm.
 

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Several issues can develop from a vehicle sitting for a prolonged pd of time.

The 1st is flat spots on the tire, this is an easy fix with a new set.

The 2nd is excessive rust on disc brakes which can lead to pitting on the disc and excessive shutter when applying the brakes.

The 3rd is drain on the battery. It’s still powering systems in the vehicle even when it’s not on

4th, is the potential for wildlife to wreak havoc on internal wiring and soft materials

5th, Potential water damage due to unmonitored leaks.

In the end there is all sorts of damage that can occur, most is easily rectified, and I would recommend you look over your vehicle and make the dealer replace tires, disc brakes, or any other components that have “lot rot.”

If you are wondering how I know any of this, it is a common problem for any of us who have left their vehicles parked for extended periods of time while deployed.

Generally you try and leave your vehicle with someone that will drive it every two weeks or so but that’s not always possible.
 

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Lot rot happens sometimes, but it's a lot more rare than this forum makes it out to be. Usually just throw a battery in it, test drive it to get the flat spots on the tires smoothed out, and send it out the door.
 

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I don’t think it’s a real concern. If it is, we’ll start finding Broncos in these…

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These Broncos are only sitting for a month or so. Folks are whipping this up into something that it is not. Each one will get 'repaired' or whatever is holding it back addressed then inspected prior to shipment. Back when we had full dealer lots, there were vehicles that sat for months unsold waiting for people to come in at the end of a model year looking for a deal on a purple car that no one wanted.

The reality is that any car or truck you bought off a lot has had some amount of time spent idle. Unless you verify the month / day it was made, you have no idea how long it sat idle at the plant, rail yard, port, in shipment (it can easily be a week idle on a RORO), port received, possibly a second or third mode of transport, or the dealer lot.

Folks are just making up issues because they don't have anything else to talk about. This is not long term vehicle storage issues. I've got a '75 that sat for 12 years in a shed so I know for a fact that none of the issues of long term storage applies to the MAP vehicles.
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