ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[MNBigfoot]

@Mabbett, when will your Bronco hard-top be available on Amazon for $700?

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[Sunday Money]

But it can be disassembled for easier storage.

I realistically don’t see anyone disassembling this thing for storage once it’s initially built & whole. Plus, the gaskets/rubber will wear big time during every disassembly / reassembly. They will be compressed too much and not be as tight as the initial assembly. So between the amount of work required to disassemble & reassemble + the risk of wear & tear on the seals, not practical IMO.

It's called sarcasm... That was one of their Top 3 "selling" points on why it was being shipped like an IKEA product (but with a greater chance of problems post-assembly).

One huge reason is to keep the shipping costs lower, the bolt together design allows it to ship flat. Second reason to have our customers assembly is that way they know every detail about their top, if they need to adjust rubber, tighten j-clamps, turn handles, etc then they know exactly what to do. Third reason is because our customers can store the hardtop flat if disassembled (It takes up a lot less space when disassembled). There are more reasons but those are three important ones.

 

[pakrat]

I’ve figured out the hold up.

I might be a little slow but that chart makes no sense. Is that recent?

Presumably the red highlights are complete. Yet they released the video and it is still in production? And they are still being produced so they are still in China?

Just get one hardtop to these dedicated buyers so they can finish the job for you and assemble the whole thing ADV. You really don't deserve customers with this kind of loyalty.

 

[adcam]

Based on that chart if it doesn’t pass QC, then it goes back to production???

 

[BroncoBoy22]

You guys got me dying in this thread!

 

[BroncoBoy22]

@Mabbett, when will your Bronco hard-top be available on Amazon for $700?

We will all be lined up I’ll assemble it from scratch with no complaints at that point haha

 

[Cased]

How will this be handled if you have a leak from a bad seal or panel ?

Personally if it has to be assembled I would just as soon be the one tightening those bolts but seal prep , movement , squeeze out.

Not getting a good feeling about any flaws

 

[Elonmsk]

I might be a little slow but that chart makes no sense. Is that recent?

Presumably the red highlights are complete. Yet they released the video and it is still in production? And they are still being produced so they are still in China?

Just get one hardtop to these dedicated buyers so they can finish the job for you and assemble the whole thing ADV. You really don't deserve customers with this kind of loyalty.

The chart is designed to show you in real-time how they plan to delay orders for another 6-12 months. But this origami hardtop is totally worth the wait.

 

[woodsman44]

Mind blowing it's not at least partially assembled for that cost, especially the seals.

Yup, and I would never buy a hard top with all this assembly required, I can see this as a problem down the road with all them seals, squeaks and leaks possible developing through time....I mean the price and warranty is an absolute no go for me as well.....TOR has a lifetime warranty and fair pricing with great customer service which is my top pick so far

 

[Ninjak]

Well from the responses, I guess we now know why they did not do an install video. I do agree though, its a lot to do, it may scare some off, others may be ok with it.

In the end, they just need to get them out in people's hands and see where everything lands.

 

[swanjonson]

Well from the responses, I guess we now know why they did not do an install video. I do agree though, its a lot to do, it may scare some off, others may be ok with it.

In the end, they just need to get them out in people's hands and see where everything lands.

I don’t disagree with getting the tops out the door, but where the buyer needs to build their top, way beyond bolt together, there should be a massive reduction in cost.

Without assembly, these tops should be out the door at $4500 at most.

 

[604Bronco]

I don’t disagree with getting the tops out the door, but where the buyer needs to build their top, way beyond bolt together, there should be a massive reduction in cost.

Without assembly, these tops should be out the door at $4500 at most.

At the very least, the rubber seals should have been pre-installed by the manufacturer. Bolting together is one thing. It's another to ensure the seals are properly installed.

 

[lapazleo]

I don’t disagree with getting the tops out the door, but where the buyer needs to build their top, way beyond bolt together, there should be a massive reduction in cost.

Without assembly, these tops should be out the door at $4500 at most.

I was thinking more like $2500.

 

[pakrat]

Yup, and I would never buy a hard top with all this assembly required, I can see this as a problem down the road with all them seals, squeaks and leaks possible developing through time....I mean the price and warranty is an absolute no go for me as well.....TOR has a lifetime warranty and fair pricing with great customer service which is my top pick so far

I hope everyone reads the warranty before completing this purchase. It is way more restrictive than AC and on a different planet entirely from TOR. Basically any way you can think of being denied coverage is outlined in the legalese.

This part is especially concerning...
" ADV. does not warrant against defects resulting from improper assembly, installations, misuse, abuse, accidents, product modifications, negligence or deterioration of the finish due to improper maintenance or exposure to chemicals and/or other unusual environmental conditions. This warranty does not extend in any respect to accessories or parts not produced by ADV and shall not extend to any consequential or incidental damages. "

Another fun part...
" The customer will be required to return any defective product(s) to ADV before ADV delivered repaired or replacement product(s) to the customer. " So basically you are w/o a top from the time you send it back, they look at it, hopefully have spare product on hand, and ship it back (if they decide to honor the warranty at all based on the extensive exclusions). Hopefully all of that goes way faster than this launch, though you have to trust your gut on this one based on everything up until now.

Basically if you put it together wrong...denied. Put on a rack...denied. Clean it...denied. One year or 12,001 miles later...denied. Some of this is pretty standard stuff but the assembly denial part is the eye opener to me. $7k for a top that has a one year warranty, you build yourself, and can that warranty can be denied for almost any reason including building it yourself is a leap of faith the width of the grand canyon.

Who knows, they could be the most stand-up company ever and cover most anything regardless of the warranty limitations and restrictions. They may have parts in stock and be able to ship it back timely because their supply chains have been fixed and labor shortages have been sorted out . You can only gauge it by their past track record. Time will tell.

 

[Area51BS]

You guys missed it. They don’t appear to deliver many tops. But keep putting out FB/YT videos. I added that line in there where delivery gets held up.

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