This worked for me in the 80's it would work for me now. I didn't even mind the manual inside windows
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I really like that. the seats look really awesome, too. I saw a two-tone truck in the reveal video that looked acceptable to me. It's a good back-up if I don't like the Bronco.It does fold flat - so you have the option of it being a fully flat floor, but you also have the option for the storage compartments if you want to keep things from moving around in the back seat. And it's lockable with the seat down.
Just curious, what is with people today that they need tailgates/swing gates/lift gates that are all power operated?That's another issue. They could certainly design a gate that the window lowers into and the whole thing power opens and closes like a tail gate or have the window lift as on the Expedition and have the tail gate power open. With the glass lifting up, The tail gate and wheel combination shouldn't be so heavy to not be able make that work.
The thing with a no assist tail gate with a tire and wheel mounted to it would be pretty heavy and hard to close. Power assist would be pretty much mandatory to be practical. Also on the F-150, they added self closing because Chevy has it.Just curious, what is with people today that they need tailgates/swing gates/lift gates that are all power operated?
Hell I'd take a slow ass crank window if you gave me a tailgate. A lift gate is something to smack my head into, a swing gate has no functionality. At least a tailgate I'd get some use out of.
Just remember, people don't swing gate or lift gate at football games, THEY TAIL GATE! ?
And I never mentioned anything about a swing gate, yet you came at me about it. ??‍I still don't understand what you're getting at - I never said anything about a window being unable to roll down into a tailgate, and then your next post is about how I said a window can't go into the tailgate.
Also would ruin the whole removable roof thingThe ideal thing would be to have it work as a lift gate like most SUV's use, but that would require a setup that's probably too expensive to lift a wheel and tire that big.
This is your post:And I never mentioned anything about a swing gate, yet you came at me about it. ??‍![]()
I wouldn’t call it debunked. Just unlikely. Always a chance Ford was trolling by mocking up some fake hinges on the rear window for the “leak.”
I'm pretty sure I saw "optional" on that feature.A column shifter has no need to be released and hidden out of the way for a desk...seems like a simpler solution.![]()
Right, but does that mean if you don’t pay $$ for the option....it just stays upright, and no desk? IMO a column shifter is out of the way, and frees up space in the center console....like my old escape had.I'm pretty sure I saw "optional" on that feature.
I think most people understand that the hinges for the swing gate aren’t on the windows. LolThis is your post:
Implying putting fake hinges on the back for a swinggate. Apparently I misunderstood.
Exactly what you get. The column shifter is only on lower trim levels. It seems premium buyers don't like those. Back in the 90's, they were on most Ford trucks. They had a very distinctive bend to the lever. The thing with those is I'm pretty sure they are mechanical while the other options are all electronic.Right, but does that mean if you don’t pay $$ for the option....it just stays upright, and no desk? IMO a column shifter is out of the way, and frees up space in the center console....like my old escape had.![]()
So your post doesn't mean "fake hinges" on the window to throw people off to make people think it's a swinggate and not a tailgate?I think most people understand that the hinges for the swing gate aren’t on the windows. Lol
No, and it’s hilarious anyone would think that!!! ???So your post doesn't mean "fake hinges" on the window to throw people off to make people think it's a swinggate and not a tailgate?
Whatever, it really doesn't matter.