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Nice. On my jeep TJ I have an aftermarket front swaybar to improve tire clearance up front, so I'll have to take a close look at that.

Awesome, good points, thanks !

Looks like more than half an inch of clearance? 255/85R17 ?

Would appreciate yours (and everyones) opinion: what do you think would be the max diameter without removing the crash bars? 34 or 35?

I see how they did it. They re-position the front diff! I posted prior to checking, because in the past I've haven't seen a lift kit like this one. In the Subie space, a few people will install subframe spacers, but I don't see many people in the wild actually installing those.

Would you be willing to share where the other 4" come from? 8" increase in tire diameter? I see the logic in a 2.5" suspension lift. I guess the front driveline only allows about an extra inch of downtravel? If my assumption is correct, then a 2.5" suspension lift means that resulting...

I'm not trying to convince anyone. It sounds like you're going to the extreme of ignoring MLRey's points. You're implying that this is a lesson we have to learn the hard way. I don't doubt your belief that this is an unfortunate lesson that some can only learn the hard way. However, your...

Uh oh, that's what I was afraid of. It sounds like Ford has already deployed this. Great points, though, thanks !

We're certainly impressed by your confidence - such that you don't want anyone to say anything positive

It never ceases to amaze me how effective that tinfoil picture tactic is. Let's think about this. People literally have no greater fear than being considered uncool. So the only thing they have to do to suppress discussion is to show a picture of tinfoil.

Thanks for the encouragement. I wish I could be as optimistic as you are about Ford not deploying this before it's required.

Basically they're saying they can't tolerate differing views

Thanks for the article, that's a good one. My fear is that Ford's CEO may follow through with his suggestion of deploying this before it's required.

More gaslighting - we don't care what you believe

Thanks for letting me know about the 2024 models ! Unfortunately, my question is a complicated one. I'm trying to delay my purchase for as long as possible, because I have some old trucks that will be good for at least a couple more years.

They began the gaslighting by saying that they don't respond to "haters." Because anyone who disagrees is a "hater." Basically they're saying they can't tolerate differing views.

I love some of the replies in here. Like 2 said that drunk drivers think the drunk sensor is defective. Or that we have to deploy the drunk sensor before we're allowed to say that it's defective. Actually, smart people don't have to learn everything the hard way.

We already got that you want to make new cars suck for 10 years. But we need to know which 10 years those are going to be, so we can make our purchases before the 10-year window of defective vehicles.

No hate in this thread - I'm just looking for information It will be great to end drunk driving - but the defects in the drunk sensor mean that new cars are going to suck for the first 10 years of deploying this

"He" is observing that Ford's CEO has incredibly bad judgment, so he's likely to follow through with his idiotic suggestion that Ford should deploy this before it's required.