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  1. Colorado Group Buy with Granger

    I’d be willing to bet you could get enough extra selling your existing car private party to more than cancel out the sales tax savings.
  2. Colorado Group Buy with Granger

    Deleted due to my lack of rational thought after a very long work day.
  3. Bronco Dealers: No-ADM, X-Plans & Special Discounts Master List

    I talked to a salesman who was wearing a ball cap with a dress shirt and tie. Didn’t feel like his name mattered unless they had a good response. He walked over to talk to the sales manager in his secret room 3 or 4 times to answer basic questions. I asked about matching the Granger deal and...
  4. Bronco Dealers: No-ADM, X-Plans & Special Discounts Master List

    I went in to talk with O’Meara, did not get any warm fuzzy feelings. Lots of generalities and requests to ā€œjust move it over.ā€œ Judging by the $50k ADM they had on a GT500, I sure wouldn’t trust them.
  5. Big Bend Bronco Thread

    Big Bend has 32ā€ tires.
  6. Carbonized Gray Paint Thread

    Neither the mustang graphic or the paint sheet in that picture look ANYTHING like cactus gray in real life.
  7. Big Bend Bronco Thread

    You could add aftermarket leather and heaters for much less than $6k. if I could get the high package on the Big Bend for my wife, that’s the route I’d be going. We will end up in an Outer Banks Sasquatch. I would still much rather have the grey grille from the BB than the black one though...
  8. Ingress / egress height of 35” & 33” Bronco

    Like these? Outer Banks with steps and a Sasquatch 4-door.
  9. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    With the release button being on the back of the window near the swing gate, I wouldn’t think kids would be able to reach it very easily. Especially since kids seats are now more secure than the astronaut seats for the Apollo missions.
  10. *Look away Dave Ramsey enthusiasts* -- Buying Bronco with cash out home refinance?

    I agree with you. That’s why I was pointing out our mortgage is cheaper than renting in our neighborhood.
  11. *Look away Dave Ramsey enthusiasts* -- Buying Bronco with cash out home refinance?

    Our house is cheaper than renting a 2-br apartment in our neighborhood in Denver. Rent vs buy can depend on where you live and how much you can put down, which I think is the main roadblock for a lot of folks. I do agree that debt is a bad trap for a lot of people, but mortgages can also make...
  12. *Look away Dave Ramsey enthusiasts* -- Buying Bronco with cash out home refinance?

    I completely understand the desire to find the best deal for yourself. I could not under any circumstance sign off on paying off a car over the duration of a mortgage. Odds are you probably won’t still have this Bronco in 30 years, or even 15. But you’d still be paying for it. There’s also a...
  13. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    Everyone is using those numbers. I don’t care if they’re accurate or not, the difference in height makes no difference to me. I just don’t get why the assumption is the marketing guy knows more than the engineer. I also don’t get why someone wants to use the numbers as hard facts then claim...
  14. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    So the marketing person knows more than the suspension engineer? The guy in BV is reading off a cheat sheet to answer questions. That’s why they dodge questions, they don’t know what hasn’t specifically been written out for them.
  15. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    75.2ā€-73.8ā€œ=1.4ā€ on the 2-door. 75.3ā€-73.9ā€=1.4ā€ 4-door. If the difference in tire height is an actual inch, the difference is .4ā€ on both. It’s the shadow black top, the difference in actual tire height, or a combination of both.
  16. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    I understand that, but when you try to convince someone of the truth, they always point to this numbers and say ā€œthere’s a .4ā€ difference after accounting for tires, so there muct be spacers or a completely separate suspension and a third set of shocks.ā€ If it were a completely different setup...
  17. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    It isn't taller, it’s exactly the same. Everyone is obsessed with figuring out why there’s an extra .4ā€ of height listed on the specs for the Wildtrak without taking into account it comes with the Shadow black hardtop instead of the soft top. The .4ā€ is in the top. The suspension is exactly...
  18. More Q&A from Bronco Super Celebration West (by multiple sources)

    This is the answer you get when a marketing person is asked technical questions. One of the suspension engineers told me that the suspensions are the same except for the up-travel limiter.
  19. Dumbest reason you’re choosing a Bronco, particular trim, or option??

    I want one to park next to my ā€˜75. Probably getting an outer banks high package so I can get the bigger screen. I want the badlands suspension/tires, but I don’t need the vinyl seats or rubber floors. I could Sasquatch and get the suspension (yes, it’s the same) but I don’t know that I want mud...


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