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  1. GreenMtnBronco

    Jersey / East Cost Bronco

    funny, i am actually watching a video where reading pond was the first of three they went down. my place is just down the hill from this about a half mile south on 100
  2. GreenMtnBronco

    Jersey / East Cost Bronco

    if you went in all the way Reading pond is pretty knarly where it turns into a stream and eventually dumps out in Plymouth 5 corners. a classic
  3. GreenMtnBronco

    Jersey / East Cost Bronco

    my post was 2 years ago!!! did you do any class 4 roads?
  4. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    The ONLY way to do this is in small claims court. Looks like the limit in CA is actually pretty high, $12,500. I would find the lawyer in this group and write up a form that everyone can use and just fill in your personal information, date of deposit, include all public statements and personal...
  5. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    I think the suit is in public domain and was DLd by a member of the public and posted. if you are going to mention invoices in a law suit, why wouldn't they be listed as exhibits? they did after all include two documents related to this joint venture: the Memorandum of Understanding & the...
  6. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    Did APG put limitations on the number of tops ADV could sell? the distribution agreement doesn't say "don't send us too much business." Still wondering why the ADV suit didnt include the invoices it paid as exhibits. that's a bit odd.
  7. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    both will be bankrupt. ADVs estate will have a claim on $/tops from APG, likely ahead of any auction of APGs assets. All top buyers will be unsecured creditors of ADV and inline ahead of or behind and more senior creditors. some investment firms that by BR claims will contact everyone and likely...
  8. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    The litebrite top was probably part of the early batch of 10 or so tops that showed up early and they were just waiting for a youtuber to promote the tops.. and somehow it happened.
  9. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    i may not have it all right, and typed that before having coffee! I have the ADV fenders & hood, they are actually a good product, If i were doing it again, I'd want the APG fenders, but yes, both companies are clearly not above board. I want to think John at ADV is genuine, but I look at the...
  10. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    I don't think they intentionally created a ponzi scheme ADV entered into an agreement with APG to distribute tops. APG agreed to build the tops for 50% of the tooling/ setup costs and then supply tops at x$ per top ADV went out and built a pool of customers raising their half of the $ by...
  11. Better Business Bureau: Did you order an ADV Production Modular Hardtop?

    class a the class action folks want significant settlements. A $8million suit with 1000 class members is only going to net them about $2million, not a lot of $ in the class action world. Going to be tough to attract any attorneys to this.
  12. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    there isn't enough $ in this class for any real CA attorney to pay attention!
  13. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    curious.. IF APG refers sales inquiries to ADV as posted repeatedly here, why when building a Pre-runner (what is a pre-runner?) for you, did they not go to their "partner" and "exclusive distributor" and say we have an opportunity here to put the ADV branded top on the @LiteBrite pre-runner and...
  14. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    I don't actually think you did anything wrong. You are a silly youtuber who figured out how to make $ out of nothing. (kinda like seinfeld being a show about nothing) and based on your viewership, you get companies to give you their products and services at a discount to help promote them. You...
  15. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    gonna be hard to find, "good" class action lawyers want the big securities fraud cases, there is not a lot of $ in this overall case for a higher end attorney. Best bet is if there is an attorney (or a few) that have been harmed and sue on their own, the Judge would then pool them together to...
  16. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    APG is surprised there were 1250 orders? where did they think that ADV came up with the $4million + to pay their invoices? It's a well written rebuttal, good lawyer and slick marketer behind it. somewhere between the ADV allegations & the APG rebuttal lies the truth... neither one will accept it.
  17. Bestop wants to hear from YOU! What features would you like to see on our 6th gen products?

    A soft top for the 4 door that has a frame that weighs half of what the Factory set up does. One should be able to remove this on their own. I recall my JK soft top being manageable by one person.
  18. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    what about the suit says THAT? it just says they(APG) kept charging us $ and never delivered anything...
  19. Better Business Bureau: Did you order an ADV Production Modular Hardtop?

    seriously? the guy is a car salesman! slightly above or adjacent to lawyers & headhunters on the food chain! (I am one of the two and can say that)
  20. ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

    how many tops do you think they actually took orders on? I think there is no way they gave all the $ to APG. They had to cover their own marketing, time, rent, etc on this as well. I am willing to bet they had orders for 2-3000 tops. could be more, and could be less, but I think they still have...


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