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Good looking bumper and it has a great profile compared to other offerings. I hate the Jay Leno Chin look of most winch bumpers. Have you been able to mock one up on a Raptor yet?

$4k off MSRP... getting better, still have to take a deep breath seeing $100k OTD

I have seen several 2023 Braptors advertised under MSRP- most around $3,000 under. The 2024 Braptors I have seen on the lot are around MSRP and I have seen one advertised around $3,000 under (not Shelter Green). I posted this in another thread this morning- where is the market right now. I'm...

I have been talking with several dealers on 2023 Raptors. While I have had one asking for an ADM- it went away quickly when I sent him three dealer listings within 150 miles under MSRP (all $3k off). Interestingly, I found a dealer who has the colors and options I want on a 2024 'In Transit'...

Thanks for the feedback. That was my concern and exactly what bit 5Angels in that video. Unfortunately for him- many of us can learn from his $3,000 problem. At least ADD stepped up with a new bumper, but you would think they would include their frame reinforcement with the bumpers that...

Kinetic strap (or rope) is the right tool and can be used in this loading with the correct recovery mount. Unfortunate situation, but glad to hear that ADD stepped up. It restores some confidence in their business and puts them back on the list for me...but maybe with the LOBO brackets. BTW-...

The winch mount in this situation played no impact on the failure. While it is not ideal in a winch loading situation, there are hundreds of applications where a winch above the bumper works. Warn and others made millions of $ on Grill Guard mounts for winches. Many legacy bumper designs...

ARB bumpers also have some significant bracketry The Tricky Dick brackets are impressive. LOBO does offer a completely unique approach as they ties bumper reinforcement into the body mount with their 'Crash Bar Erase Kit'- a significant structure. Thanks for pointing them out! The fairly...

After searching a bit- there are brace kits, but its odd to me that ADD sells theirs separate and not as a part of their bumpers- designed to be used for this purpose. Seems like a huge liability. ADD’s separate bracket kit (brackets on both sides)- still less significant than the ‘major...

Its hard to tell the difference between a snatch strap and tow strap from that short video. While the correct strap is far superior in these situations, there is still a mounting failure on the Bronco and bumper that is a big concern

While I'm in the market for a '23 Raptor (working on a couple available at the moment), I have been looking at accessories. In particular front and rear bumpers, but I'm concerned on the mounting points- they are mounted in essentially one plane and that would be prone to failure in real world...

Maybe they will see this, and adapt. A simple fix to anyone likely looking at this axle.