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I'm more concerned with the back and forth on MIC flares, tops, etc and the varying pics and stories we're hearing. At around $60k, that's a bit concerning for the 2021 buyers like me. Not being able to test drive it to make sure it feels right is also a concern. I'm really starting to think...

Is it me or do these tires look thinner than what we're being shown on the Badlands Overlander?

A wise man once said, "If you're not 1st, you're last!"

All that’s true, but you better believe Jeep is running to their drawing boards and planning a counter attack. They’d essentially be dead if they don’t!

Changing from the Wildtrak to the Badlands. Just gonna upgrade the BL to the 2.7 engine and SQ package. For me, it's the seat colors of the Wildtrak that are turning me off. I would rather have all black and the BL has it.

Maybe the prices will be worse...don't forget, Jeep is going to counter with something as well (V8 potentially with cool new options and accessories).

That's essentially my exact build. I did add a couple small items, like the floor mats and tow package, but still slightly under $60k.

I totally did when the new Hummer commercial came on TV. I was like, ooooh....that's sweet! Let's do that instead!! She said, "um, hell no, we're not paying $100k for a truck!!" $60k'ish sounds like a deal now!! lol

Yeah, it is actually!

That's a sweet Porsche B&P! I have an AMG C63S and may be getting rid of it to support my Bronco addiction. However, the longer things drag out and the more stupidity with Ford's B&P, I could easily change my mind.

I reserved a Wildtrak, but you can select the 2.7L with the Badlands as well. So I'm not sure what the difference really is between the two.

Apparently, the B&P is just a place for you to build and price, but it goes nowhere. Maybe you just print out what you came up with and wait on your dealer to contact you. Here's the fine print: Already Reserved a Bronco? PLEASE NOTE: If you have already reserved a Bronco, you will be able to...

@Greg Helmick When they know they are going to make huge sales, they become assholes. That's ok though, it'll most likely be the only time I ever buy from that dealership because of their attitudes. In fact, there's no guarantee I'll buy from them this time!

@DetailsMatter Absolutely! I've actually had previous bad experiences with Sheehy's customer service. In fact, when I was helping my daughter buy her first car, we started there...then I got so pissed, we literally drove next door and purchased a Toyota Corolla for her. The Sheehy guy kept...

I live in Warrenton and just chatted with Tim. He confirmed that Sheehy will NOT be offering the X-Plan pricing or any incentive. However, they will not go above MSRP. I'd be in on any group plan if you're working it.

A Tacoma versus a Ranger is no comparison. It's why the US Gov't goes with Tacomas for their fleet vehicles. I lived in the Outback, Australia for a couple years and drove a Landcruiser. With temps getting up over 120F sometimes and the harsh terrain, it's what most people drive down under...

This is insane when you think about it. Everyone's dying for a B&P on a...wait for it...wait for it...a FORD!!!!! Ford is using a genius marketing ploy to get everyone willing to sign over their homes and 401ks!! I'm just another sucker waiting in line...but for how long? lol

Hope that's the case...oh well. I figured the dealer's appointed "Bronco" contact may be hearing something direct that we're not getting.

Just responded to my local Ford dealer's "Bronco" update email and of course had to see if they've heard anything on the B&P date. Here's what he said...and let's hope this is wrong. Anyone else hearing new info on this?

Received an email from my Ford dealership saying to contact them. I did, and then asked if they had any updates on the B&P date. Here's a snapshot of his response...not good. Hope they're wrong!