Agree with the OP I gave up trying to figure out colors (cactus gray changed from a baby blue to a concrete gray since last time I logged in), and even features. Ordering process? 10 different answers. Timeline? You won't know until May, months after ordering. This site has WAQAAAAAYY too...
It seems looks are important to most buyers. Fad and fashion change over the generations. Today, a big jacked up (70s term) truck is seen as looking cool, regular tires on a vehicle looking pedestrian. But the recent driving tests of them show 33 inch works fine in the sand and you don't...
I've seen two things recommended, officially:
1. Order by 19 Mar. If the breakdown show you will get an MY22, you will be able to update your order when those details are out, but keep the same place in line.
2. Tell your dealer you want a MY22 and do NOT order at all. This seems risky, and...
Yes, I know. My chances of getting the white modular roof are high. Chances of first production problems being corrected with engineering changes also high. Everything has it's tradeoff, being "FIRST!!!" is never one of mine.
Thanks all. I reserved in January at the end! Just was too busy to hear about the New Broncos until the end of the year last year, studied a few weeks, decided to reserve. I would suspect my chances of a MY21 are slim...and none.
I'm trying to understand if I should order now, I have a very late reservation. I know I will end up with a MY 2022 Bronco, not a 2021. So why order a 2021 now? Does converting now "use up" the reservation? Some threads say yes, some no. The dealerships don't know, yet. And their bias is...
I've never paid MSRP in my life. Never paid "the going rate" for the items in my other hobbies either. Bought low and sold high on ebay for years, it paid for 2 trips to Europe and a RV. I'm not about to run into a dealership the first day with my hair on fire, screaming "I GOTS to have my...
Somebody please point me to a thread about late reservation holders. I have one, and I'm seeing conflicting info and it's hard to hunt this forum with the thousands of posts a day. Some say don't "burn" your reservation by "ordering" if you are a late res holder, for example. That seems...
I'm sure I'm at the end of the line, but I wanted to wait until the model bugs are worked out. I'm also waiting for the dealer to contact ME, not the other way around. Because the longer I wait, the more likely they're willing to negotiate on my price. I'm not going to run in there or pester...
I reserved very late, quite recently. It's a dealership I ordered my F-150 from in 2002. I haven't bothered to call or email them, why bother so soon? You're on the list, you got your number, why jump in the chaos the first couple weeks? My plan is to let them contact me, then ask what is...
Is it just me, or does it seem every post that is short seems to be pushing getting one, but ignoring the long posts explaining why they're a rip-off? Seems like a bunch of shills are on here, but I may be imagining things. I would NEVER get another ESP.
BTW, I could tell MANY stories from friends over the years of an ESP NOT covering expensive items. Yeah, they'll replace an electronic window motor. But may not cover a total engine failure or transmission. I'm sure in the internet era there are statistics of how many not covered vs covered...
I just looked at the Ford ESP site just for fun. Clicked the yellow button for highest option. Clicked Brakes. Read the fine print of xyz being covered then "except for friction items" in parenthesis. "Friction items" kinda covers a LOT, doesn't it?
It appears they are doing exactly the same...
Same thing happened to me 30 years ago. Got my first good job after the Navy and College, went to the Ford dealer and negotiated for a Taurus SHO that had been a demo car. Then they ushered me, my young wife, and baby into the back room. A young hard charger started trying to convince me to...
I learned years ago when I bought a Ford SHO that the extended warranty wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. Had a clutch break the 2nd year. Not wear out, break. They said "all clutch parts are considered Normal Wear Items - not covered". Then had brake rotors warp. Normal Wear - not...
I expect ALL dealers want a commitment to buy from you when you order. They're not a huge national chain like Walmart, they're small private companies. It's not a mass-market $35 blender you can just 'return' if you don't like it. It's a $35,000 custom manufactured product built as YOU...