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When was your reservation? IMO at this point anything after July 2020 will be a Q3 22 or later.

Most likely varying degrees of worse unless you have a FE. IMO at this point

They have to sell a certain amount of hardtop 2 doors before they can sell soft top 2 doors, some federal reg.

also the diesel

I think based on the emojis they are saying Ford is going to stop building hard tops for a time until they are 100% ready which means no 2 doors or hardtop more doors Until next year.

I’m going to test drive my plan b on Wednesday. A gladiator Mojave, well its between that and a Gladiator Rubicon EcoDiesel but those are impossible to find on the lot to test drive. It’s the only other option that I am interested in. The 3.5/auto in the Tacoma is just not a good combo for a...

I wonder if the bronco is going to have the same issues the big 200 series land cruisers have with blowing front CV’s? I guess one would carry a set of front axles like the built 200 series guys do since landing a rig as heavy, as a 200 on 35’s, Bronco on 37’s will be hell on the CV’s. Or...

I dont even want a removable top. Ive owned 3 convertibles with hard tops, A 1st gen Miata, a 4th gen Miata RF, and a 87 Suzuki Samurai. The 1st gen Miata I had the hardtop off for a total of 1 week in my 3 years of ownership. My 4th gen Miata was the RF and I did put the top down...

IMO with the 8 speed the 4:1 t case in the Rubicon isn’t really necessary unless you are hardcore rock crawling.

They stopped taking orders this week so they will finish the orders they have up, which are like 4-12 weeks out from being finished then start taking orders for 2022 while they transition the line for 2022/Maintenance/etc

I mean it is that time of year when the model year changeover happens. 2022 Gladiator Order banks open in October with them building in November. Plant changeover during sept to oct so it will be down for a month which is normal.

Which part? the dealerinsider doing 6% under or the last day to order a 21? I think Dealerinsiders post on 6% under might have been on JLWranglerForum, the part on last day to order was on gladiator forum iirc.

Yea the closest dealer to me that does the discount is 8% under invoice but its 3.5 hours away. Worth it for that much of a savings tbh. Either that or a fly and drive. I would rather give my money to a dealer that actually interacts with the community like Granger or Dealerinsider than any...

Dont forget it is also model year changeover time. yesterday was the last day you could order a Wrangler or Gladiator as a 21 and 22 order banks dont open until October.

if you look at wrangler forums there are dealers that do 6-8% under Invoice. A couple of the dealers that post here do, @DealerInsider I think does 6% under invoice. Also iirc yesterday was the last day you could order a 21 Wrangler or Gladiator, order banks for the 22's open in October.

I think the first trail only a section at the top is rated 7/10 the rest is a 3/4

actual sales, so no longer dealer owned.

They need to be able to get a bronco in order for them to create an aftermarket top.

i mean at this point do you even trust ford with that?

Im giving ford til April to have some concrete movement before I go another direction.