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It’ll never be that high, usually the MPG estimate is overstated.

Built Ford Tough

The chimes this bronco makes might be the most annoying I’ve heard in a vehicle in recent memory.

That actually looks pretty killer.

It’s easy to order a car and get it for invoice or at least below MSRP. Heck, I bought an Acura right off the lot (dealer stock, not special order) and got it for $500 below invoice in December. It was the last one they had too. Not everyone is screwing customers over; it seems a lot of...

Rick Warner, that brings back memories.

Some of us longer than others…

Here you are on Bronco6G too. Glass houses.

Say what you will, but there aren’t any threads over on JLforums to keep track of forum members grenading engines. I’d take a Fiat over Ford right now. Would expect a Ute fan to know better than to buy from the “blue” oval. (UofU Class of 2011 here)

No offense but you’re just wrong. The JL I own is at least twice as stout build quality wise as my coworkers Bronco. As well as every other Bronco I’ve seen up close so far. Talk about parts falling off. The fit and finish on the new Bronco is so chintzy. The Jeep’s 3.6L engine is...

If you buy off the lot, sometimes. But if you order, you can get one at or below invoice, and it’ll be built within 8 weeks.

Did the same with my Jeep JL for the first time this weekend. My assessment was similar. Loud wind noise, fatiguing drive, no plan to drive with only the panels off anymore, I think it’ll be better when I take the top completely down later this spring.

My JL comes with tools for door removal. Did the JK not?

Those look incredible! Was thinking about this for my JL, these seats sealed the deal for me.

They’re still pissed about Ford stealing their design?

Isn’t this the guy who really only has videos of himself damaging his Broncos? Then making chintzy stuff to try to “fix the weaknesses he finds”

I rest my case… but I must admit, I thought he fawned over the Bronco quite a bit, especially at first.

It’s hard when people don’t share your same biases and values isn’t it?

And yet most Jeep guys who’ve had experience with prior model years will tell you that the JL is better in almost every objective way compared to prior Jeep Wrangler models.

yes, and do you know what can get a car dinged on reliability? A complaint about a creak from the suspension, a loose knob, stupid stuff. What I’m saying is that it’s not as if Subaru is guaranteed to get you 300k trouble free miles, and Jeep/Ford etc are guaranteed to be in the shop every...