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Really? Aluminum has been used in vehicles for decades. The tranny and t-case on my 89 were aluminum. The hood of the F-150 has been aluminum since 2004.

Couple examples here: https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/innovative-ifs.862/ I realize that mass production and crash testing constrain what is possible, but surely the standard Ranger suspension isn’t the end all for an off road oriented street legal vehicle.

It’s not a small aspect to me. The front end of my F-150 has been a never ending source of frustration. I can handle replacing worn parts every couple years, but the repeated 4x4 failures are becoming intolerable for me living in the Rockies. Four wheel drive can literally be a life saver where...

Yet Jeep just keeps selling them. They’ve sold so many that they’ve caught Ford’s attention.

Yeah but we didn’t know that it would use the same unimaginative, street biased IFS. The BroncoR doesn’t exactly confirm this, but I’d say it’s a very strong indication of what’s to come. As much as I am a proponent of a solid axle, I would have been ecstatic to see some innovation in regards...

Yep, and Ford uses electric steering racks on everything but the super duty. Makes a sas quite a bit tougher than it used to be.

That’s fair.

It was confirmed a long time ago that the Bronco would use Dana’s Advantek axle technology. They build IFS stuff too so it doesn’t confirm anything one way or another.

Someone that swaps a D44 into a brand new truck is going to do those things anyway. Pretty much a guarantee that you’re going to have to modify suspension, driveline, and steering to convert from IFS. No reason to go with a 44 and be right on the edge of breaking things. Cheaper just to do it...

Like what?

Might as well go right to a D60.

Because Ford said they were going to build a no-compromise off-roader. Sorry but a Bronco top hat on a Ranger chassis doesn’t meet that definition for me like it does for you flatlanders.

Sounds like a Subaru to me. After the Rock Poser Bronco is released I’ll just put more money into my ‘68. Please keep your mountain bike out of my way.

Wrangler appeals to the masses and hardcore enthusiasts. And it hasn’t been out of production for 25 years. I give the new Bronco a 7 year run max and no significant updates.

No, I still believe a stock JLR Dana 44 will outperform and outlast whatever IFS Ford builds. However, it would instill a small amount of confidence that they’ve built a system that could withstand some abuse. A locked front end under warranty would be great, but a warranty doesn’t get me out of...

Unfortunately the Raptor front end can’t hold up to an open diff, let alone the Torsen. A locker is out of the question because the rest of the components could never handle it.

I disagree. The performance and durability of the SFA will be realized even on moderate trails, or in the snow or mud. Do you think Ford will offer a factory front locker? No effing way.

I almost went over backwards in my rzr going up that obstacle. I agree with you. Tons of good stuff in Utah and Colorado that will push a JL to its limit, without too much risk of body damage. Unfortunately I believe the JL is going to remain in a league of its own.

I tried using the 5100s set at 2” but couldn’t stand the ride. It felt like there was no down travel left. Ending up setting them back to zero and using a regular 2” leveling kit.

Yep, only with the improved driving characteristics of double A-arms.