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  1. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Nobody’s asking to match truck capability, just more than minivan capability. And as others have said one of the biggest complaints is that the tow rating is exactly the same across the board, regardless of changes like wheelbase, engines, tires, suspension. If the shortest wheelbase with the...
  2. V8 HEMI 392 Jeep Wrangler production model announcement teaser. Will Ford answer with V8 Bronco?

    I wouldn't say 0 chance. I mean, I for sure ain't gonna hold my breath in hopes of it, but they did make the Trailcat concept like 4 years ago, wrangler with hellcat engine and manual transmission. So if they had the thought to make that a manual, I'd say there's a chance. But probably still...
  3. Das Auto - What VW will bring to the table in the near future

    Cause diff people like diff things. I've owned 3 classic bugs, and still have one. Fun car, easy to work on, gets lots of attention, everybody seems to love them. I don't see anything wrong with VWs. Almost bought an R32 years ago(the VW not the Nissan, though I'd probably take one of those too)...
  4. V8 HEMI 392 Jeep Wrangler production model announcement teaser. Will Ford answer with V8 Bronco?

    While I agree jeeps prices are high for what they are, I do kinda doubt a 392 wrangler will be 75k plus. I mean I'm sure they'll hit that with options and/or dealer markup, so ya might regularly see that price on stickers once(if) it hits dealer lots, but base bare bones price I'd say $62 is...
  5. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    I know how gvwr and payload works, I guess I’m just used to looking at trucks in the past when thinking anything of payload, and the gvwr can easily change between trims or engines, so finding only one payload cap anywhere I’ve seen for the bronco I assumed that was payload regardless and the...
  6. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Nope, nothing to do with engines for towing/payload. And curb weight doesn’t change payload or towing cap either. Payload is on top of curb weight not part of it. 4dr is 1370 payload, 2 dr is a bit less. Some options would take away yea cause they count against payload, but are also removable...
  7. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Broncos payload rating is almost 1400lbs, it’s got plenty of payload. Gladiator has 1550lbs payload with max tow cap of 7600lbs. 500lbs tongue weight from a 5k tow cap would still leave 870lbs of payload for the bronco. So unless your “average weight male passengers” are well over 400lbs...
  8. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Many hoped for more cause the bronco just doesn’t seem to be a sum of its parts kinda thing. Uses so much from vehicles known to tow a lot more, sure it was never going to match those vehicles of course but didn’t expect less than half the capability. 70% what the ranger does with mostly similar...
  9. Ranger lift on bronco?

    My confusion was mostly to the “not the bronco on the current ranger” part of the comment. As far as the new ranger, any discussion I’ve seen about it is just conjecture(though admittedly care little for the ranger so not paid it huge notice). But the bronco is on a modified T6 platform which T6...
  10. Solutions for no cup holders in 4-door backseat

    Seen and used various add on cup holders over the years. Have had a few vehicles with no cup holders at all. Finding a decent working one depends on the vehicle, but just for funsies I’ll share some...
  11. Who's adding Keyless Keypad Entry and why?

    Yep, the whole different strokes for different folks kinda thing. So I can see the benefit easier for this cause it’s something I would likely use. Course I’d be a lil wary of the phone app opening too. Haven’t used fords, but had the onstar app when I bought my first Camaro(2012). Had the...
  12. Who's adding Keyless Keypad Entry and why?

    That works for you, but different people do things differently. I haven’t been real off grid camping in a couple years, but used to go multiple times a year going back since I was like 8. Done 50mile a day hikes, camped next to waterfalls and in caves, all that fun stuff. Only in the last few...
  13. Who's adding Keyless Keypad Entry and why?

    I haven’t owned a vehicle with this but know multiple people that have and most of them seem to love it. Forget something in your truck but don’t want to run back in the house to get the keys? Type in the code. Go to the beach/waterpark/jog at local park and don’t want to carry keys with you(or...
  14. Ranger lift on bronco?

    That’s the first I’ve heard that. Always been said the bronco is based on the current ranger platform, even way back before release and everybody was scared it was just going to be a tweaked and rebadge Everest(which is the same platform as the current ranger). It’s built on fords T6 platform...
  15. Frames on frameless windows with soft top?

    If all you want is a 4x4, why do you want a convertible SUV? It’s intended purpose is to be driven. Just saying, that can go either way. But really, how many jeeps are bought solely for the open top on road driving? Bronco will be the same. And ya can’t compare that to a Sebring, or really any...
  16. Any chance the tow capacity gets increased?

    I’ve towed quite a number of varying weights with varying vehicles, from a Jeep Cherokee to an hd diesel crew cab to a C class rv, from a small open motorcycle trailer to a loaded 34ft camper to a car hauler. Sure some handle it better than others but that’s not really the question here, just...
  17. Come on Ford: Why I am Changing from Badlands to Black Diamond

    Just for shiggles I googled “steelies” and this is the first 2 things that came up
  18. Any chance the tow capacity gets increased?

    Roof and doors aren’t going to add any more structural integrity to it, the structure is the cage that’s still there with roof and doors off. Jeep has the gladiators 7600lb tow cap with removable roof and doors and off road capable(though its longer wheelbase is a disadvantage off road of...
  19. Bronco towing vs Ranger, why the difference?

    Bronco hitch isn’t really bumper mount same way as the ranger though. It’s mounted to the frame with square receiver that comes out under the bumper. It’s just mounted on a crossmember instead of bolting to both frame rails, but still mounted to a welded on structural piece. Ranger is literally...
  20. Bronco towing vs Ranger, why the difference?

    There’s much smaller toy haulers nowadays, but sure plenty toy haulers can still weigh up to 15k or more empty. For me, my current one weighs a bit over 5k empty, have multiple motorcycles but only take one at a time, lightest is in the 300lbs range heaviest is almost 800lbs. I know of a couple...


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