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I will definitely be hauling a case of hamms into the deep woods of Michigan’s upper peninsula. Hamms is the top of the bottom for cheap beers.

Depending on the Bronco you ordered and options selected, it can weigh over 5,300 lbs (4dr, BL, Squatch, Hard top, etc). So weight will negatively impact fuel economy. The other knock is the general shape. The bronco is far less aerodynamic and has much larger wheels than the edge which will...

A51. I have seen it in person and liked it a lot more than any of the pictures online.

Submitted this afternoon. BD-Mid-2.7-MIC top-Advanced 4x4. Was lucky to negotiate to x-plan equivalent with my dealer. Now all that is left is the waiting game to see if I get lucky enough to get a MY21.

Good news, I did just put my reservation in, and the final MSRP matched the build and Price (and the individualized calc from the invoice sheet). So that 100 dollar difference seems to be a mistake and be tied in with the mid package.

I haven't ready through all pages at this point, but thought I should point out a discrepancy I noticed in case it hasn't been mentioned already. For the 4 Door Diamond (Base with no options) the prices listed are Invoice Price 37196 38545 Bump up to the 4 Door BD with Mid...

Already gave up my 2011 v6 mustang because because of kids. Needed more rear seat space. It wasn’t anything special, but it was fun to drive and looked great. I thought I would miss it more, but I was shocked that I didn’t really. I honestly missed my old 1999 jeep Cherokee more and still...

Ahh I didn't see that. Thanks for spotting that and clearing up the confusion. I figured they were taking some liberties but wasn't sure.

I just saw an article that was last updated on Dec 22 on cjponyparts.com. Along with the specs that we are all very intimately familiar with, they posted estimated fuel economy numbers for the 2 and 4 door bronco. I was unaware that ford has provided fuel economy estimates. Did ford share...

I am starting to question my dealer. They said that they have no new information to provide and won't have anything to share until the 20th next week when we can start processing orders. They also said that they don't know where anybody is in order??? So obviously they got the memo that...

Same situation for me, hopefully it works out. My dealer said back in October that they had about 20 reservations. I am a 7/29 so I am not hopeful, but maybe cancellations and my simple build will help.

I agree conversion rate is likely to be around 40%. That is pretty close to Tesla’s conversion rates. I also think that a larger chunk of the early reservations will cancel when compared to the later ones. I would think that people who reserved in the lust phase of the launch (day 1 and 2)...

Can someone explain the Max towing capacity for the BD 2.7 Auto at 3440? I was always under the impression that towing capacity was GCWR-Curb Weight. Using the max curb weight they provided. 8840-5279 = 3561 ?? This is slightly higher than the listed 3,440. What am I missing?

The bronco math is correct, here, but the jeep math doesn't make sense. Above you add ( $/gal + $/mile ) / MPGe. Purely from a units standpoint, this does not work. However, this is the exact reason why this comparison was tricky, because gas and electric cars mileage are compared based on an...

So I guess the simplified version of this story is as follows: *When driving in gas mode, the wrangler 4xe achieves a marginally better fuel economy (But very similar) to its non electric version. *Your electric cost savings will vary based on when you charge and the cost of electricity in your...

It actually is a plug in electric. You can charge it from the wall outlet in your house.

MPGe is actually a straightforward formula set forward by the epa. It equates energy density between the fuel types. To do the math, 1 gallon of gas has 33.7 kw Hrs of energy. To calculate MPGe, the car drives 100 miles and they calculate the total energy consumed (from both electricity and...

I agree that there are definitely some assumptions in my math, but my general take away, is that they are far closer in cost than I ever would have guessed. The jeep probably has the edge, but not by enough that it would ever impact my decision. I would have though there was a greater benefit...

That is a good point. Costs could be greatly affected by the time of day that you charge.

You don't need to use a fuel tank size for the bronco calculation since it is purely a gas engine. Assuming a combined fuel economy allows you to calculate the cost per mile just from that number. The jeep is different since it has effectively 2 different fuel types that cost different...