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Amen to that. I think the instrument panel shown in this thread looks horrific. Shine a lot of light at the driver for no reason. I just want the relevant information, presented in the best color. I have to say, of all the cars I've driven, BMW is the best I've found--at least in their older...

Not in my experience, not if the snow is heavy, falling fast. Sure, the wipers won't freeze up BUT eventually snow (or slush, from melted snow) accumulates around the edges and packs on the bottom so the wipers don't go down all the way. And when you eventually stop, it will freeze up in a...

+1 to this. Both wanting heated seats just because it's *cold* in some places AND because two people often have a very different perception of cold. Great to have a way to let your passenger warm up when you don't feel cold at all. It's also nice to have heated seats when you're driving when...

2 things: 1. The *interior* pictures influenced my exterior choice. I want an exterior that doesn't clash with the interior and trim colors offered for a given trim level. 2. The top-down and MIC hard top pictures also influenced my exterior choice. Given how much black and gray plastic this...

Natural next question: How easy will it be for you or other third parties to connect to the car and modify the firmware? Display custom information? Disable certain alarms (seatbelt chimes, etc.)? And disable this snooping, of course?

Nothing to feel sad about, from my perspective. Sounds like you have some cars you enjoy already. There isn't any rush. The thing about Broncos, and virtually all products, is ... they'll make more! There will be one waiting for you when you're ready. If not, there will be another new toy...

Excuse me? 2-door (preferably with manual transmission) is the *light* side. 4-door is the dark side. ;)

If you want detours, this is a nice route if you want to see some great roads (routed as if you're going from Greenville to Two Rivers Ford, hope this link works)...

I happen to love tight, twisty roads--roads where you have to pay attention. If you're just trying to get from A to B, maybe not ideal, I could see that. But if you're there to enjoy the ride, without a tight timeline, it's a beautiful state. So my advice, if you're going to Stephens in WV to...

Out of curiosity, why are you not fond of driving in WV? I have found the roads there to be magnificent, just a lot of fun. Friends and I have done several motorcycle trips specifically to ride there.

Wade Ford in Smyrna simply told me "no discounts." I e-mailed after that, and got a response. Business development manager wrote "decisions from Ford are ever changing and out of the hands of any dealership." Tried to nudge me to the Bronco Sport, at MSRP. Said that they don't want to send...

Good explanation, but even if true the final line isn't necessarily true. I don't think you're being pessimistic enough. I'm not sure dealers will be compelled to use their allocations to fulfill orders first. IF Ford built Broncos to fulfill all reservations first, and used that information...

Chatted with Wade Ford (Smyrna, Georgia; western Atlanta suburb) this morning. They weren't interested in my business. Salesman had not looked at the Bronco B&P, didn't appear to know it was released. I asked what they could do since X-Plan wasn't an option, Ford isn't honoring it for the...

Just saw this thread. I'm going to check on Wade Ford, Smyrna, GA on Monday. They've sent a few e-mails and kept in touch, time to check on their pricing now that X-plan is not in the picture.

I completely agree with the frustration. No idea why the Mid Package + Manual Transmission can be had on the Badlands but not on the Black Diamond (and others). I thought it was a bug in B&P at first, but the Build and Price Reference Guide cleared it up, unfortunately (I know others have...

Yeah, but it can also be a lot of fun for *you*, if you enjoy that sort of thing! I had a salesman go around and around with me, years ago when I made that mistake (I did my calculations beforehand). He tried to jerk me around, basically trying to trick me with a longer loan, very dishonest...

Long thread, hard to keep up! Pages are being added faster than I can read them! Lots of overreaction here. Okay, the X-Plan isn’t available. Things change. Roll with it. Make a trip to Iowa or West Virginia or Texas. Pay more from a local dealer. Negotiate with your local dealer, like...

Wait a minute. We don't get to choose our steel supplier in the B&P??? I thought maybe that was what was taking them so long.....

I also owned a '96 Contour SE (technically the wife's car). From back in the days when Ford made cars, and with a manual transmission no less (the most rubbery-feeling shifter I've ever used, but still)! Really fun car overall. First car I owned with ABS, traction control, etc. as well. It...

I taught my ex-wife on a 1988 Honda CRX HF. 62 hp and basically zero torque (it *did* get a legit 50+ mpg on highway trips, though). I've also taught my daughters and several friends (both on cars and motorcycles). It CAN be done!!! First thing I do is sit in the car with them, engine off...