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Land Rover has recently changed up their Defender trims with only the higher models getting a digital dash. These require chips and will almost certainly be a constraint, at least in the short run.

As an early morning reservation holder from 7/14/2020 without a VIN, will this make me happier or more depressed? I’m honestly not sure.

Is this true even with the xtreme recon pack?

@Dads_bronze_bronco Two comments: 1. Hat’s off to you for a slightly different take on the merits, but still coming to the same, decent conclusion that any fair minded person should in this situation. Great open, honest disagreement- appreciate it. While you Drex and Compta have quibbled on...

If the Grangers of the world way oversold, wouldn’t this require that Ford allowed way more reservations than they should have? I would think we’d all agree Ford would know how many total allocations were available and should be held to the same standard you want to hold Granger- If Ford did the...

Freudian slip? I’d say Ford’s treatment of us reservation holders at SAC definitely make us feel “apart” from the Ford family.

I think very “rad” is the right word for this.

Thanks, John. Seeing the picture again helps drive home your messaging about it not truly being a top down time stamp order kind of an operation. I assume still no word on more Raptor allocations unless we hear otherwise.

It’s not my favorite, but I don’t think it’s terrible either. It conveys more of a race car vibe that would feel more at home to me on something German, but maybe that was what they were thinking- kind of a King of the Hammers thing. I much prefer the topographic/terrain graphics on the F150...

I think the big takeaway (and I welcome all feedback if I'm wrong on this) is that you lose price protection if making significant (trim/series) changes after March 7. My specific interest was in potentially changing from Badlands to Wildtrak with the new Hoss 3.0 package. But because that can...

Same- I've been looking really hard at a Defender. I had a date with the missus last weekend and literally saw three Broncos that night, and despite my order within the first 12 hours I have nothing. In a year or two these things are going to be everywhere once Ford gets its act together. Maybe...

This sounds right to me. You get to select these options, but can only do it AFTER the March deadline and are forced to pay up for the privilege. Hard pass.

Sorry if this is clear already, but let's be honest...nothing ever is when it comes to this. Looking at the Ford FAQ, it looks like I could conceivably change my order (still not even previewed) from Badlands to Wildtrak with the Hoss 3.0 package in advance of the coming deadline without being...

How do you feel about the 4 cylinder, power-wise? Did you do a Johnson Rod lift to get those tires to fit? I feel like I'd be so particular with my Defender build, and if I went 4cyl, I'd need the steelies, white roof, mud flaps, etc. To me the fun of the Defender is the uniqueness that comes...

John- Any sense of those 2 extra Raptor allocations for those that declined and if they will be extended to other reservation holders on your list? (Do you get to keep those allocations?) Thanks!

Yeah we get the pandemic slowed production and we even get that Ford has been forced to kowtow to big dealers. What we don’t get is why they’ve unfairly and frankly dishonestly screwed hundred and hundreds and hundreds of us over for simply taking them at their word. Why haven’t they just been...

Hey DieselSmack- Might be good to completely strip out the name of the dealer that you're working with to better protect them. Unfortunately, I've heard that there could be significant repercussions from Ford corporate for dealers that "overshare" information.

Honestly- Who cares? It's exciting to see that this exists until you realize that no one will ever get one, certainly not for under $100k in the '22 model year. Will there be a few built that we can watch videos and reviews of? Sure. Can you have one...maybe? One day? If you're someone with...

This is insane. Ford promotes poor communication and continues to give more advantages to bad dealers that mistreat and abuse the end customer? Ford is not our friend, guys. Time to buy something else.

You and Compta and I have been on this forum, chatting with each other literally for years. I know you, you know me, and we’ve all been on the same ride together this whole time. I don’t know about when OBX22 and KenneyGriffiths rides began (on both forums), but there’s a significant amount of...