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Ford has said deliveries of these first orders may not be complete until 2022. That's a long time from order til delivery. Even under the best of circumstances, you order in Dec, and get delivered in June. Maybe you break your leg, or get COVID, or there's a strike at the plant, or any...

I wouldn't do it. You may not see the truck for a year after your deposit. Heck, if there's a new COVID wave, or a gnat winks at a grasshopper in China, it could be even longer. This isn't like you place the order, then track the production, and get the vehicle in a few months. Lots of...

I was just looking at one of the Granger pricing threads, and they say no more money until delivery.

My understanding is that you should not be making an additional deposits until you actually close on the vehicle. And, you can walk away at any time. I am not clear on what becomes of your $100 if you complete the order, but don't close the sale.

These are mounted under the hood hinge via a bracket. On the Liberty, there is a grommet in the fire wall that let me push the wires through, and install a switch inside. Took a little field engineering to make sure the hood doesn't hit them when it closes or opens, but that location has...

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Easy - with an ice cube.

Everyone likes Pappy, but who can actually get their hands on that. I happen to have 2 half-empty bottles, but it has been impossible to get a hold of a new one. My daily drinker is usually Larceny. It's better than you'd expect, and cheap. Others I hit on occasion include WIllett, Whistlepig...

I've bought and sold a few cars on ebay. I used escrow.com for my sales.

Go by Uptown Liquors, buy some Zimas, then pose at the Mall with Zima and my new Mall Queen.

At first glance, as we know it now, it seems the optional tow package includes a hitch and lights.

I'm wondering if lack of auxiliary oil and trans fluid coolers are the culprits.

Well, I was going to get a Wrangler a few years ago, but saw it towed 3500. Instead, I got a LIberty with tow package, that tows 5500. Going to 5k broadens your camper trailer options significantly.

What's the Good Word? BCE

Is 12 gauge ammo ever going to make a comeback?

Traded emails with my dealer. They said it's too early yet for them to say whether or how much under MSRP they will be. If need be, I'll join the crowd in Iowa. But, I'll wait until build and price comes out to confirm.

Disappointing to be sure. TBH, even though they say "no ADM", my experience in almost buying a Ranger a few months ago tells me that they don't count $250 Nitro in tires, $450 bedliners, $600 window tint, $699 doc fee, and on and on as ADM. The Rangers I was looking at had various levels of...

Sorry, but as a Georgia Tech guy, it's incumbent upon me to point out that this is occurring in Athens. :)

If you don't want sasquatch, that may be a good option. I figure a Big Bend might price out about the same as BD with that package, since half of it is already on the BD. Yeah, invoice on options/packages will be big. I'd like to Nav also, so options will get pricey.

Yeah, I suspect the package pricing will be the ultimate thing that influences it most. I am thinking that much of the Sasquatch package is already on BD, so hopefully that's not too bad. I do want the 2.7 though, so that'll add. Not really sure yet if Mid is really a need or not. But, the...