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Another interesting comparison: Black Diamond with Sasquatch and Auto is almost the exact same price as a Badlands with no options (manual). 35s plus auto plus sport button vs manual plus disconnect plus baja button 2.7L a cheaper upgrade for BD at that point, while Badlands gives you access...

You know you don't have to add every single option right? lol

Look at "Power and Handling" tab. Auto is listed up standard for 4 Door and optional for 2 Door. It also specifically lists the manual as standard on 2 Door. https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/2021/models/bronco-base/

IMO the disconnect is overrated. Plenty of people get around trails fine in 4runners with no disconnect and $5-10k in mods that make it about as capable (or less) than the aforementioned Bronco configuration.

I'm leaving for 30 minutes. I expect this thread to be at 100 pages when I get back. Hop to in men!

You're at least the second person to round ~$8000 to $10,000. Very weird.

I think the configuration you listed will be even cheaper since the 4D comes with auto trans. And the steel bumper is 800 bucks, rock rails are probably about the same. I think any way you slice it, a BaseSquatch is supremely capable and undercuts the price of a Rubicon.

Without judging the fairness of the price, those beadlocks are $1900 on a Raptor. So add $600 for a tire and fender upgrade, and technically 4.46 to 4.70 on the auto, and the price makes sense.

No No, but that's a pipe dream anyway.

So what's gonna happen in this place when actual build and price goes live and every option is 10% more expensive than the survey? :devilish:

Has anyone seen price of 2.7L on the Base 4 door? It should only be $1900 since auto is standard, no? So Base 4D with Squatch, 2.7L and hard top should be $33,200+$5000+$1900+$700=$40,800. Not bad.

The price for just the beadlocks on a Raptor is $1900. So you could look at it as spending $1900 on wheels and $600 on tires, and technically since auto is mandatory you're upgrading the 4.46 ratio to 4.70.

I'm actually not too upset with this pricing. About $50k for a 4D BD with hard top, mid pack, 2.7L, and Squatch is about what I was expecting.

So the auto costs $1600 and the 2.7L costs $1900, unless you get the Outer Banks, in which case the 2.7L only costs $1600? I guess that's possible but doesn't make much sense.

The Wildtrak/Sasquatch has an almost 2" wider track width which would increase stability in corners and the bigger tires will have better traction.

This just goes back to my point about not knowing where they are measuring ground clearance. They could be measuring at the center of the vehicle or under the front skids or wherever. Ram claims 14" of ground clearance on the Power Wagon even though the pumpkin is like 8.5" off the ground. My...

This spec sheet which comes up when you click "Compare Models" seems generally more reliable than the individual model pages. It shows front and rear lockers standard on Wildtrak. https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/suvs-crossovers/bronco/pdf/21_Bronco_lineup_HR.pdf

75.2-71.9=3.3" The posted difference in ground clearance is 3.2" so off but close. (34.4-30.1)/2+1.2=3.35" Again not exact but close. The exact quote on the Squatch lift was 1.0" front 1.2" rear (or vice versa) so technically the number could be 3.25"-3.35" What exactly don't you think adds up?

Or they're not measuring ground clearance at the pumpkin, or that's not the lowest point. There is no industry standard when measuring ground clearance. We've been told the Squatch has a 1.2" lift and it works out basically correctly when accounting for tire height.