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FWIW, people who have actually driven them really like them. MT is not beholden to the off road crowd, it's got an off-roady feel but still practical and comfortable. $80k is pretty loaded, once there are a bunch sitting on lots I imagine you'll see a lot in the $55k-65k range. Unless...

Make sure you pick up a case of Natty Light so when B&P doesn't go live you can at least get day-drunk and it won't be a complete waste of vacation time.

The Sasquatch has about a 1" lift over most models, about a half inch on the Badlands. There's not going to be a standalone "high clearance suspension" option. Squatch features are mixed in with others on the model pages, take everything on the website with a grain of salt.

Maybe have a little awareness when you drag up posts from 2 months ago.....

Preload does not add to the effective weight on the spring at load, it just makes sure the spring is never fully uncompressed. In other words, if your vehicle is 4,000lb, the suspension is seeing 4,000lb of pressure whether the preload is 1" or 3". The diagram is as if the vehicle is already...

The spring is the same height. As long as you're not overextending the shocks, travel should not be effected. Adjustable coilovers have recommended ranges, if you want to go higher, changing the whole setup (stiffer springs and longer travel shocks) is best.

You don't need taller or stiffer springs to increase ride height with coilovers, you just need to adjust the pre-load. Reference: Every adjustable coilover on the market. The purpose of stiffer springs is at least partially to reduce body roll created by raising the vehicle's CG. EDITED to Add...

No, they're not going to move more freely. The movement of the tires is only affected by the suspension travel. 10mm less is the size of a pebble. Meanwhile, the 35s are giving you a much larger contact patch to go along with the added height.

Squatch also has extra lift compared to Badlands, it's 1.4" total according to the spec sheet.

There's no way in hell 10mm of articulation is more beneficial than 1.4" of extra clearance and bigger tires.

They will probably be a touch stiffer to reduce body roll due to the added height, but it might not even be noticeable. Because they are position sensitive, they could valve them so the "middle" range - where the shock will operate in normal driving - will have similar compliance to any other...

I asked Bilstein about rebuild intervals with the 8112s with light off roading and they said 60-80k miles, and specifically said, "they will last about as long as traditional shocks (between rebuilds)." These are not the same but I think it's safe to say these are designed and built to last...

To be fair, the damage on those cars is more about short car vs tall SUV than steel vs plastic.

It's still listed on the "compare" spec sheet.

What trim is that? Does it have Sasquatch? :cool:

lol, yes, fixed it....

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. By "them" I meant Wildtrak and Bronco Warthog/Raptor. I was not comparing a potential Bronco Warthog price to F150 Raptor price.

Mike weighed in on the great "by September" debate, but only after August had passed. The insinuation is that the customers were interpreting his words wrong, despite the fact the he had a million opportunities to clarify, and we now know that his "by September" comment was just an estimate or...

Lots of option packages on lots of cars require you to purchase additional options/packages that are not included in the price. Bottom line, required does not equal included.