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Point taken. But the counter point is that the vehicle does not actually cost any more to build, adjusted for inflation, due to productivity gains. So despite the more options and the longer life it should not cost 2x more, adjusted for inflation, than it did back when cars were crappy.

We're talking about Productivity vs Wages. With Productivity SHOULD come savings through efficiency. With improved productivity should come more profit. WIth more profit should come higher wages. This last part is missing. Which, regardless of how much longer the vehicle last, is the reason...

Sad part is year-over-year, you are NOT making anymore money than you were in 1985 if in the same position with just annualized adjustment. So while the cost of the vehicle has doubled (inflation adjusted), your effect wage has not. So while Production has seem amazing advancement, that floor...

Absolutely right. Masses of American's have been taught that a healthy DOW and NASDAQ mean everyone is doing well. In other countries, everyone being able to go to the hospital without the risk of declaring bankrupt means their economy is doing well.

Maybe one bigger

Exactly. I would totally be all in on a EV/Hybrid for BroncoBronco. Would erase any small doubts, as it would become a viable work commuter in terms of MPG/$$$

Awesome, because the exception makes the rule every time. *rolls eyes*

Fusion Energi gets 20mi with a little brick in the trunk. Bronco/Bronco can get a much bigger battery.

People are registering UTV and Roxxers with Road Kits. It is possible, but not easy.

We don't get "real" Toyota trucks or SUVs either. https://www.motor1.com/news/370971/toyota-land-cruiser-namib-unveiled/

Said it before, will say it again. Most people will be buying a BroncoBronco for: Top Off (4wd Convertible) Look Cool (Pride) LIGHT Off Road Capability (Adventure) Alternative to Jeep (just based on brand) Being a Hybrid/EV does not counter any of the above and will be seen as a positive by...

I don't wan't an automatic GT350. I want to acknowledge that all the people buying baseline Mustangs ALLOWS Ford to build the GT350. Like all the Mall Ride Wrangler Sport models, allow for the Rubicon.

The Bronco does not need to be a reskinned Rubicon. The Raptor is selling just fine. The Tremor is coming. There will be enthusiast vehicles, just maybe not a Rubicon Clone. My point is, the "softening" of the vehicle to create/maintain a market than leads to the ability to drop niche products...

FJSeries was a Toyota version of an XTerra, not of the original FJ, despite whatever their marketing said. It looked like a Tonka Toy, with no Removable Top. I went through the same wait and expectations of the FJSeries as I am the Bronco. At least the spy shots show that Ford is considering a...

Go buy an ICON. As one of the second group, it is not my job to finance your specific needs.

EV Hybrid is a BUY BUY BUY

Wrong about that. Maybe not their first thought, but once you start looking at real world budgets, LOTS of people start at a price point and then drop off. My wife started looking at Tesla and BMW EVs. Ended up with a Ford Energi. Lots of people start at Ford/Toyota and end up with Kia/Hyundai.

I hope you get an SFA. Market says otherwise. Pretty much the only SUV in the US left with SFA is the Wrangler. The market has spoken. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15377906/best-off-road-vehicles-suv-2020/?slide=11 "The G-class lost its solid front axle in its redesign, but it...

Don't forget that the "other group" PAYS for the ability of any manufacturer to build something more purpose built. You can go buy an ICON Bronco anytime and get exactly what you want. But, it you want one at a reasonable price, then compromises will be made to insure the "other group" finances...