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These straw man arguments are completely irrelevant to how automotive recalls work.

There are laws and liability that Ford and EVERY OTHER manufacturer has to follow.

They aren’t going to release specific technical instructions before parts or a repair are fully validated because that would lead to owners attempting repairs not approved by the NHTSA, potentially creating even more of a safety risk, not to mention easily open Ford up to massive liability problems.

The official procedure that Ford will release (hopefully Friday) is legally tied to the final validation of the repair.

You can either wait for the repair to come out, stop driving your Bronco if your worried, or sell it.
But there’s no reason to continue talking about the information that’s been supplied.
No one is asking Ford to publish engineering drawings or step-by-step repair procedures before the fix is validated. People are asking for enough detail to make an informed decision about their own risk. "A wiring harness may short and cause an engine compartment fire" is a lot different than saying which harness or under what conditions the failure occurs.

I also worked as a certified technician for a manufacturer, so I understand how recalls are handled from the industry side. From my experience, Ford's response looks like it's providing the bare minimum required to satisfy federal law while attempting to control the public relations fallout.

Other industries routinely disclose known hazards before a permanent fix exists. They may not provide the repair, but they do provide enough information for customers to assess their exposure and, where possible, mitigate the risk.
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Oh yeah, sorry I should have added more context to my post. I saw your pics in the thread and put mine up as another point of reference / thought it might be interesting to show how those points differed between broncs.

I'm going to pick up some of that cloth wire harness tape and wrap around the exposed wiring on mine too, I think. Be a good opportunity to see if any wires close to the edge have any visible signs of wear on mine. Going from the two examples I've now seen, it seems like there is variation in which wires are likely to be adjacent to that edge as well as how much of the loom is exposed there.

Hopefully moving that tank out of the way won't be too much of a pain in the butt.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the service procedures end up being for this... bookmarked this thread for sure.

Cheers 🍻

Look at my earlier post. Found that and fixed that issue. May or may not be related to the recall. But is was rubbing up against the fender metal lip.
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Tank is super easy, its three 8mm bolts
Oh yeah, sorry I should have added more context to my post. I saw your pics in the thread and put mine up as another point of reference / thought it might be interesting to show how those points differed between broncs.

I'm going to pick up some of that cloth wire harness tape and wrap around the exposed wiring on mine too, I think. Be a good opportunity to see if any wires close to the edge have any visible signs of wear on mine. Going from the two examples I've now seen, it seems like there is variation in which wires are likely to be adjacent to that edge as well as how much of the loom is exposed there.

Hopefully moving that tank out of the way won't be too much of a pain in the butt.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the service procedures end up being for this... bookmarked this thread for sure.

Cheers 🍻
 

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Olde but goody, the young ones will not understand :wink: .
I'm totally not salty that the mysterious benefactor never messaged me...

Heard from Bob Tomes for the first time in a while, sort of. They sent me an automated text with no further explanation - it's a new loaner agreement because we timed out the old one.
I left the service department messages on 2 separate days and even accidentally got a sales guy on the hook, but I haven't heard a peep from my service contact in a week.
I swear, I better be first in line for that harness wrap.
 

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Maybe this is the section of the harness I had to clean up and re-pin behind the driver's wheel well. It was definitely rubbing.
Elaborate. Did this part of the harness impact the DRL's? I have an issue where one of mine doesn't turn off and it seems to be a common problem of a broken wire.
 

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I got a flashlight and inspected my wiring on the passenger side. Everything looks really well protected on mine with the exception of right at the connectors, but that's not going to rub anything. I think it's good to go, but I will take it in for the inspection when the recall "fix" is announced.
 

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Go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal... there, it's stuck in your head too.

Cal Worthington had dealerships all over California and Arizona as well.
I grew up in Southern California. The man was ingrained in the culture. I had no idea dealerships included Alaska. Today I learned. :)
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Exactly one year of owning a ford after 40 years of GM, mostly Chevy. What a mistake. Learned my lesson. Never again, obviously. Ford sucks, from top to bottom. They produce cheap crap. One time with GM had a trivial recall in all those years. ONCE. I'm at four or five in one year. Disgraceful incompetent people. Probably goes back to the unions.
40 years, you must be talking about vehicles prior to all the crazy California emission control standards the rest of the country was forced to follow. Hopefully you didn’t buy one of these GM vehicles for bad engines. Over 600,000

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Yep. The hits just keep coming
I give Ford credit for notifying us (... kinda, sorta), but this really is too many open, continuing issues.

Makes me think how much we didn't know 20-30-40 years when oversight and scrutiny were less omnipresent and companies kept us in the dark. Or (what I'm trying hard *not* to believe) has QA and QC really gone down the shitter.

Machines & bots vs. the humans ... who's doing the more credible job these days? 🤔
 

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Exactly one year of owning a ford after 40 years of GM, mostly Chevy. What a mistake. Learned my lesson. Never again, obviously. Ford sucks, from top to bottom. They produce cheap crap. One time with GM had a trivial recall in all those years. ONCE. I'm at four or five in one year. Disgraceful incompetent people. Probably goes back to the unions.
Yeah, its the unions...smh. way to assume. You'll be very happy returning to GM with their great new motors that don't have any issues. /s
 

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The problems themselves and definitely the solutions are not always completely obvious, even for the seemingly simple issues. Because of a history of people and companies rushing to incorrect conclusions, there are processes to follow for these things and AT LEAST TRY to make sure things get done CORRECTLY and hopefully in a reasonable timeframe.

I've worked many Root Cause Corrective Actions and the initial "problem statement" is generally incomplete and fairly often completely wrong. The identified "problem" maybe only a symptom of the real issue. So, be thankful they are working to get you the correct, effective fix the first time through....and not having you run in circles chasing your tail with DIY repairs and two or three more follow on recalls to resolve the condition.
lol like when they went in to fix the rotating rocks sound on the MT and now have to go back in to fix the fix due to improperly aligned trans to transfer case?
 

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Ford has directed that all measures will be taken to preserve 2-dr Broncos. Moar doors get sent to the crusher. 🙃
Are 2 doors still a thing? Thought they were on the extinct list. 🤣
 

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My guess; it will be a piece of shielding of some sort to shield part of the harness away from heat. Hoping it is a simple fix.
It shouldn't take 5 years to realize a corner was being cut. No one at FoMoCo does periodic regression analysis to see how things are holding up ... or what can be done better? Or, just to simple to copy, cut, paste, repeat?
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