Is an electric Bronco in the works for the US market?

[RedDawg]

Once we figure out how to fully recharge the battery in under 10 minutes, I’m in.

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[96GreenBronco]

I'd be interested depending on the specs.

Been daily driving a Tesla for a couple of years now. In reality, there's no cons.

I too, have a Scout reserved, but I'm only interested in the BEV variant. I have less than zero desire for a hybrid.

I thought the Scout was going to have an option for an EREV platform which is not a traditional hybrid more of a gas generator to charge the EV battery. I could see that being good for the Bronco for versatility, overlanding and range anxiety

 

[Spooled]

I thought the Scout was going to have an option for an EREV platform which is not a traditional hybrid more of a gas generator to charge the EV battery. I could see that being good for the Bronco for versatility, overlanding and range anxiety

They're going to offer both, with EREV coming to market first. it will use a 1.5L 3 cylinder or 2.0L 4 Cylinder as the generator

 

[CarmeloS]

Yeah, the EV Error might get a second look. Given the fact that gas prices are starting to…trump…the negative aspects of EV.

They're gonna drop eventually, and besides, can't jerry can electricity now

 

[ManuelNY]

I'm not into pure EV right now. I do have one of the Scouts on preorder. Not sure if I'll go through with it or not. I need a good 350 range without having to stop to get me to buy anything that is non ICE (which is why I'm considering the Scout) - also as long as they hold to it, Scout should bypass all the dealer BS. I know I am NOT dealing with my local VW dealer who happens to be my most local ford dealer. Would rather bite the curb before I ever deal with him again. But I digress...

I like the scout but i find it too heavy and too large for my needs. I wish they would make a 2 door...

 

[ManuelNY]

They're going to offer both, with EREV coming to market first. it will use a 1.5L 3 cylinder or 2.0L 4 Cylinder as the generator

The range of the Scout, with the gas extender, is plenty at 500 miles. It is a sign of market changing...

 

[Spooled]

The range of the Scout, with the gas extender, is plenty at 500 miles. It is a sign of market changing...

I just don't understand the obsession with range. true 500 mile range is 7 hours of driving at 70mph. Whose bladder is lasting that long? I only do a couple of road trips a year where that would even matter. I'd rather not have a gas engine to maintain at all and have a 350 mile range.

 

[Roger123]

I also have solar on my house, so electricity is free for me for next 25 years which is pretty enticing.

Not to hijack too much but how does that work? No out of pocket for solar infrastructure? And do you have some sort of battery to keep you off the grid for low solar production times? Or do you get enough excess production to make it a zero sum game?

Our neighbor put it in and he basically has a solar payment plus has to stay grid connected for night time and cloudy days (no battery in his system) . He traded an electric bill for a solar payment and still has an electric bill. I guess the payback time would be determined by rates, our power bill averages about $200/month with electric everything (no NG). It would be nice to cut the cord like we did with cable but I think the payback would be pretty long.

 

[Roger123]

I just don't understand the obsession with range. true 500 mile range is 7 hours of driving at 70mph. Whose bladder is lasting that long? I only do a couple of road trips a year where that would even matter. I'd rather not have a gas engine to maintain at all and have a 350 mile range.

I don't have range anxiety, I have charging anxiety. Not too many places in Appalachia to charge up an EV. I guess you might be able to make it work but it's just so easy to fill up and go.

An EV Bronco would meet 80% of my needs, my ICE Bronco meets 100%, why on earth would I switch?

 

[ManuelNY]

I just don't understand the obsession with range. true 500 mile range is 7 hours of driving at 70mph. Whose bladder is lasting that long? I only do a couple of road trips a year where that would even matter. I'd rather not have a gas engine to maintain at all and have a 350 mile range.

Totally agree that 350 is plenty. I just said that because 500 miles range does away with any objection. I have driven to every State in the lower 49. I did it mostly in my D90, planning the trips with a Hagstrom map before the gps days and planning how many miles to do before refueling. It was back breaking work. The days I drove 8 hrs I was done. And I did my share of overlanding as well, and I was never truly more than 1 or 2 hrs away from a gas station. Range anxiety is overrated. Electric batteries are being designed now that are swappable and will keep improving; all you will would need is to swap a little bar that gives you extra 5 or 10 miles to get home or get to a charger. That is the new jerry can.

 

[Spooled]

I don't have range anxiety, I have charging anxiety. Not too many places in Appalachia to charge up an EV. I guess you might be able to make it work but it's just so easy to fill up and go.

An EV Bronco would meet 80% of my needs, my ICE Bronco meets 100%, why on earth would I switch?

Valid concerns for sure. It's very much dependent on where you live and where you travel to.

Crazy to think 100ish years ago people were reluctant to switch from horse and buggy to primitive auto as well due to gas stations being few and far between. It made sense for a lot of rural folks to wait for infrastructure to expand

 

[crzyhawk]

I don't think that range is the biggest complaint with EV. Those batteries are going to add a ton of weight. That's not a huge problem on the street, but I'd be concerned about it on the dirt.

 

[96GreenBronco]

Not to hijack too much but how does that work? No out of pocket for solar infrastructure? And do you have some sort of battery to keep you off the grid for low solar production times? Or do you get enough excess production to make it a zero sum game?

Our neighbor put it in and he basically has a solar payment plus has to stay grid connected for night time and cloudy days (no battery in his system) . He traded an electric bill for a solar payment and still has an electric bill. I guess the payback time would be determined by rates, our power bill averages about $200/month with electric everything (no NG). It would be nice to cut the cord like we did with cable but I think the payback would be pretty long.

It depends on the state, I think. Yes, still connected to the grid. There is a connection fee but it is small. We opted not to get a battery because I didn't feel the economics were there for that yet vs backup generator. We produce more than we use on average so like you say it nets out in our favor. I'd say it likely only makes sense if you know you are going to be in same house for a while due to payback calc.

We had a perfect storm of things that affect the payback that made us pull the trigger. Our roof faces south, the new gen of panels are cheaper and produce a lot of power, we live where we have very high electricity price, and the utility buys anything we produce at close to market rate. We were also able to take advantage of the tax credit while it was available. All put together our payback is somewhere in year 6, if I added an EV it would stretch it out a bit because I could not sell back as much, but that would also be likely offset by less gas and car maint costs, etc

 

[96GreenBronco]

I don't think that range is the biggest complaint with EV. Those batteries are going to add a ton of weight. That's not a huge problem on the street, but I'd be concerned about it on the dirt.

This is definitely a concern. I have the powerboost f150 it is extremely heavy due to battery

 

[96GreenBronco]

Totally agree that 350 is plenty. I just said that because 500 miles range does away with any objection. I have driven to every State in the lower 49. I did it mostly in my D90, planning the trips with a Hagstrom map before the gps days and planning how many miles to do before refueling. It was back breaking work. The days I drove 8 hrs I was done. And I did my share of overlanding as well, and I was never truly more than 1 or 2 hrs away from a gas station. Range anxiety is overrated. Electric batteries are being designed now that are swappable and will keep improving; all you will would need is to swap a little bar that gives you extra 5 or 10 miles to get home or get to a charger. That is the new jerry can.

Have any other countries or companies successfully integrated the battery swap design yet? Genuinely think this could be big. I think this also helps with another anxiety I hear about EVs which is that the batteries last only 10 years or so and are expensive to replace

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