Max lift, no other mods confusion, sas vs non-sas

[ClappinCheex369]

I have a 23 Black diamond and just picked up some SAS Bilstein.

My understanding, it’s about 1” suspension lift over a non-sas.

I’ve read the max lift with no other modifications like UCA/track bar/etc is 2-2.5”

My confusion is which does this apply to. Because a 2” lift over my stock would be only 1’’ higher than a SAS, or are these numbers based off of a SAS bronco height meaning I could lift mine 3”?
I know I’ve read the UCA on sas vs non-sas are the same too.

I planned on just doing a 1’’ level on these SAS Bilsteins when I install them to keep the overall at 2” but would much rather do a 2” to get an overall 3” on my set up if that is possible without needing to change anything else for the time being before I do a better lift in a year or two.

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[Oldhippie]

Basicly 3” lift on Sasquatch…4” lift on non Sasquatch…only real difference is the coilovers…2” max hat spacer lift on Sasquatch (the other inch is spring collar)…I woukd add a track bar relocation bracket on any 2”+ suspension lift…up to 2” body lift can be added to either very simply…party on!

 

[JL8jeff]

I think the most you want to go is 3" over base or 2" over Sas. If you plan on sticking with 35's, I would keep it to 1" level over Sas. My Sas truck had almost 1" of rake so the rear was fine where it was, the front could have gone up 3/4-1". I ended up going to 37's and did 2" over Sas up front and 1" in the rear. I was able to get the truck aligned with the stock UCA's but it's really close. You will probably need the trackbar bracket if you go 1" over Sas in the rear.

Stock suspension with 35's:

2/1" over Sas with 37's:

 

[c0ncept]

I'm not 100% familiar with the black diamond but I'm assuming that it's just "base" height? If so the SAS suspension is roughly 1-1.5" over base.

The limiting factor is really the upper control arm. Once you start going much above fastory SAS height you start to run out of camber adjustment on the lower control arm. To correct this you need aftermarket upper control arms.

I'm running a spacer kit(2" rear and 2.5" front) on the OEM base shocks. The camber adjustment on the lower control arm is maxed out to get it within spec.

 

[Brian_B]

SAS is about 1.5” over base (a little bit less but I round generously)

1” over SAS, or 2.5” over base, is where the other mods start to be required.

If you jump to 3” - it’ll go down the road but may not be able to get the alignment right.

For example - the RC 2.5” lift kit (and higher) comes with new UCAs and diff drop and track bar bracket. The same kit for SAS and non-SAs (although I think they list it as just SAS now for some reason)

 

[JL8jeff]

Sas suspension is 1.1" over base, that doesn't include the tire size difference.

 

[Snacktime]

You have a M190 front end with the less angle CV axles. With those SAS shocks you can do any perch collars you want but do not put a spacer on top of the shock.

 

[Reich480]

2024 2door bronco badlands sasquatch. I added a 2.5 in level from zone offroad, including new UCA. JKS max tire clearance kit, to fit 37in, but ended up getting 35x12.50r17 falken wildpeak at4w.

 

[derichio02]

Also when measuring lift and comparing SAS to non-SAS you should remember that you have the slimmer fender flares. I believe the SAS flares are a bit lower to the ground due to their extension and continuing slope.

By how much? I dunno but maybe others can chime in.

 

[24GTBadlands]

Dealer said my SAS has a 3 inch lift, and it feels like it when I climb up, it does have the Ready Lift upper control arms. (I am not super knowing what can go where, just thought I would throw it in for comparison sake).

 

[Oldhippie]

Just an old photo of my big bend Sasquatch with a zone 3” lift (with UCAs & track bar bracket) and the stock Sasquatch wheels & tires…it worked pretty good for awhile but I did add a diff drop for CV insurance at droop…

going to 37s needed the coilovers and lift kit replaced with for better coilovers…went with procomp and happy enough for now….also needed JKS kit and body lift….good luck!

 

[derichio02]

Just an old photo of my big bend Sasquatch with a zone 3” lift (with UCAs & track bar bracket) and the stock Sasquatch wheels & tires…it worked pretty good for awhile but I did add a diff drop for CV insurance at droop…

going to 37s needed the coilovers and lift kit replaced with for better coilovers…went with procomp and happy enough for now….also needed JKS kit and body lift….good luck!

Is that the capable steeel bumper? Did you have to trim the bumper surround for 37's?

 

[Oldhippie]

Is that the capable steeel bumper? Did you have to trim the bumper surround for 37's?

no, just stock plastic bumpers…I replaced them with JCR ones…no trimming for 37s

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