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So I switched to a soft top last month. Chances of getting an actual vin in 2021?
Good luck. I ordered a soft top that's been stuck showing "In production" since 8/2. Was told yesterday it is waiting on a new top. I'm guessing it failed the QC check off the line.
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Has anyone changed from 2door to 4door. I tried last week but was told I can't.
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I was able to change from a 2 door to a 4 door (soft top) last Monday the 9th. That triggered my build date email on the 12th (for the week of Aug 30th). I did not have a VIN or build scheduled before that.
So im not sure why they are telling you that... maybe there was a deadline of some sort last week??
 

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The schedule is optimistic, but the new tooling will be installed by the end of next month. Once that happens, it really shouldn't take THAT long to build out the 3,000 or so necessary units to address shipped rigs and the sandlot kids. From there they'll be able to finish all the FE units and then a few lucky non-FE MIC trucks.
A lot of FEs are getting VINs and Sept 20 or Sept 27 production weeks today. I wonder if Ford is backing out of their commitment to address delivered and built units sitting at MAP first before new builds?
 

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A lot of FEs are getting VINs and Sept 20 or Sept 27 production weeks today. I wonder if Ford is backing out of their commitment to address delivered and bu

Maybe Ford has enough New MIC Tops to do all three commitments at once. We will see. My build date for my FE is 9/13. We will know soon. ;)
 

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Group thoughts on being able to change my reservation (2 door hard top delayed to 2022) from the original Black Diamond to a WildTrack and maintaining 2021 pricing? After all the recent real life reviews, I've sold myself on the high tech package, baja mode over rock crawl and the brown interior with the possible 2022 green body color option(s). Thoughts? Thank you.
 

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A lot of FEs are getting VINs and Sept 20 or Sept 27 production weeks today. I wonder if Ford is backing out of their commitment to address delivered and built units sitting at MAP first before new builds?
Either they're much further along in restarting MIC production or all of us at Mt. MAP are about to get hosed... Again

Didn't they just say they're going to replace all of the Bad Batch roofs on a first in first out basis and then continue new builds?
 

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A lot of FEs are getting VINs and Sept 20 or Sept 27 production weeks today. I wonder if Ford is backing out of their commitment to address delivered and built units sitting at MAP first before new builds?
I wouldn't think so. At least I hope not. Ford committed to the FE folks that their's would be a '21 MY also. They must be quite satisfied that Webasto can match the production schedule.
 

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Either they're much further along in restarting MIC production or all of us at Mt. MAP are about to get hosed... Again

Didn't they just say they're going to replace all of the Bad Batch roofs on a first in first out basis and then continue new builds?
I believe you are correct....the one's with bad tops already built get them first.... and I'm sure there are some FE in that batch waiting to be replaced
 

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Group thoughts on being able to change my reservation (2 door hard top delayed to 2022) from the original Black Diamond to a WildTrack and maintaining 2021 pricing? After all the recent real life reviews, I've sold myself on the high tech package, baja mode over rock crawl and the brown interior with the possible 2022 green body color option(s). Thoughts? Thank you.
If you were in before 03/19 I would think you would be fine. Ford said they would honor price protection for us who got in before that date. I don't recall any exceptions, but if someone does I'm sure they will let us know. So, you should be able to order any trim you want at the '21 pricing schedule.

Disclaimer: However, I've been wrong before. Just ask my wife. :)
 

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Now didn't someone say yesterday that they knew someone who was were still working on the "dies" (molds). If that's the case, then, they have at a maximum 90 days to build (at a minimum) over 6,000 tops.

Now who here believes that they have even a remote chance in hell that they can average 67 perfect tops per day, starting today?

Let's say that they start making V2 tops on September 15th, they will have to crank out over 90 tops per day. Does that sound plausible?

If, as I suspect, they need a total of 12,000 tops - 3k for DMSC, 7k for FE, and 2k for tops in the wild. These numbers become much more grim.

135 tops per day, starting today, to 180 tops per day starting September 15. To meet demand for 12,000 tops!

In addition, they need probably additional man hours to replace all the dirt mountain tops (20-30 mins each to transport, remove, install, and quality check each Dirt Mountain Storage Complex inmate). Assuming 2 crews (2-4 people), 2 shifts, over 30 days starting on 1 November 2021. That would be a thru-put of 96 Broncos per day (and still end up short by 120 Broncos at the end of the month).

Folks, this is not going to happen, it just is pure BS from @Ford Motor Company. They can't even be bothered to send me an email, what makes you think that can build tops that quickly?
 

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Now didn't someone say yesterday that they knew someone who was were still working on the "dies" (molds). If that's the case, then, they have at a maximum 90 days to build (at a minimum) over 6,000 tops.

Now who here believes that they have even a remote chance in hell that they can average 67 perfect tops per day, starting today?

Let's say that they start making V2 tops on September 15th, they will have to crank out over 90 tops per day. Does that sound plausible?

If, as I suspect, they need a total of 12,000 tops - 3k for DMSC, 7k for FE, and 2k for tops in the wild. These numbers become much more grim.

135 tops per day, starting today, to 180 tops per day starting September 15. To meet demand for 12,000 tops!

In addition, they need probably additional man hours to replace all the dirt mountain tops (20-30 mins each to transport, remove, install, and quality check each Dirt Mountain Storage Complex inmate). Assuming 2 crews (2-4 people), 2 shifts, over 30 days starting on 1 November 2021. That would be a thru-put of 96 Broncos per day (and still end up short by 120 Broncos at the end of the month).

Folks, this is not going to happen, it just is pure BS from @Ford Motor Company. They can't even be bothered to send me an email, what makes you think that can build tops that quickly?
We'll then lets just all give up and buy yugos!...Seriously you're numbers are off and if it takes 30 to 120 days it will still be worth the wait. If it's not go buy something else... I picked up a nice little 675lt and it's ripping fun ride, not a bronco.
 

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We'll then lets just all give up and buy yugos!...Seriously you're numbers are off and if it takes 30 to 120 days it will still be worth the wait. If it's not go buy something else... I picked up a nice little 675lt and it's ripping fun ride, not a bronco.
Really, how do you figure that my numbers are off? I can account for a minimum of 1594 hardtops just with the 8/2 build week alone, another 770 hardtops on the 6/14 build week, and another 250 hardtops during the first week of June alone (both of which were hardtops for more than 50% of total production). From what I saw of all build weeks that I could get hard data, more than 50% of the production was hardtops. Prior to August first there were 13,380 Broncos, and if at least 1/2 of them were hardtops, that is 6,690 hardtops plus the 1594 from the first week in August for a total of 8,284 hardtops, not counting all the remaining 2 doors, 4 door MIC, WT's, and FE's that already had serial numbers... PLUS all the unscheduled FE's.

So help me understand where I went wrong with the math??? I have plenty of evidence to support what I am saying. Show me what evidence you have to dispute the numbers?
 
 





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