Bronco production update 8/9: Commodity issues far beyond MIC tops. Chip shortage reaches Bronco supply chain (NO COVID TALK)

[FernieSanders]

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A boy can dream.

Also, I made this, will probably Cricut it out and stick it on whatever top i end up getting.

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[Nobody]

I've caught wind of several alternatives being considered... some more drastic than others.

Could any of these alternatives be considered positive by the community, or just varying degrees of worse?

 

[SwankyTiger]

Could any of these alternatives be considered positive by the community, or just varying degrees of worse?

Most likely varying degrees of worse unless you have a FE. IMO at this point

 

[Monster1926]

Are you saying the Soft Tops will all be pushed to MY22 as well? I think at this point the best course of action would be to find a new supplier for both, since the soft top obviously has it's issues too and Webasto is at the root of both tops.

30 years from now we’re gonna see webasto Broncos go across barret Jackson for big bucks.

 

[Gamecock]

They’re the world leader in convertible tops and removable tops. They own the market. It’s like if ZF had a problem making transmissions. If the world’s largest manufacturer is struggling, then what makes anyone think a new guy is going to do dramatically better.

They don't "own the market". Jeep doesn't even use them, and it's the only direct analogy....and who said they are the world leader in removable tops? They claim on their website that they manufacture sunroofs, panorama roofs, and convertible tops. No mention of removable roofs. They have obviously been trash with this rollout, for both tops. The actual market leader in this specific type of roof, soft and hard, are the manufacturers that supply Wrangler tops.

 

[drive21bronco]

Another kick in the sack is that from everything I've been told none of the purgatory units are awaiting any type of inspection any longer. They're just stuck waiting on solution(s).

 

[GoTigersGoBronco]

They don't "own the market". Jeep doesn't even use them, and it's the only direct analogy....and who said they are the world leader in removable tops? They claim on their website that they manufacture sunroofs, panorama roofs, and convertible tops. No mention of removable roofs. They have obviously been trash with this rollout, for both tops. The actual market leader in this specific type of roof, soft and hard, are the manufacturers that supply Wrangler tops.

 

[Scohin]

@PREMiERdrum So the possibility of 2drs being sacked for this year is a high possibility? Or has Ford factored a soft top back up for them? Or just an extreme small number will be built?

 

[Ksjrb03]

They don't "own the market". Jeep doesn't even use them, and it's the only direct analogy....and who said they are the world leader in removable tops? They claim on their website that they manufacture sunroofs, panorama roofs, and convertible tops. No mention of removable roofs. They have obviously been trash with this rollout, for both tops. The actual market leader in this specific type of roof, soft and hard, are the manufacturers that supply Wrangler tops.

Jeep does use them. They have made tops off and on over the years for Jeep, and currently make the sky top.

 

[Gamecock]

Ok, I'll calrify that Jeep doesn't use them for their standard HT or ST. I did'nt know about the power portion, but it seems more up their alley as a sunroof supplier. It is pretty clear that Webasto has been trash with these products. Switching soft suppliers is easy...go right to Bestop who will make an infinitely better top, and no doubt bid to begin with. The HT obviously has another supplier too, as they've apaprently already signed with them for the painted top.

 

[navi]

Update: Ford is currently building MIC top Broncos, non FE's.

 

[JaxGtc]

Update: Ford is currently building MIC top Broncos, non FE's.

Currently meaning verified today, or generally speaking.

 

[West1]

What is the possibility that they deliver a MIC with a free soft-top and send the hardtops when they're ready and all the kinks are worked out? The thought of getting a defective top like other deliveries is keeping me up at night.

Any fix or accommodation that cost money is not going to happen. They will protect the bottom line. Extra expenditures impact projections on which the market relies.

 

[navi]

Currently meaning verified today, or generally speaking.

Verified today, on the 8/2 build thread.

 

[iamchewby]

Where are people getting this information on "you have to sell a certain number of hardtop 2 doors before you can sell soft tops"? Does anyone have a source? I've searched around the only thing I can find is that in 2009 the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia tried to regulate soft tops but it was shut down.

Without a source it sounds like fake news. Remove 2 doors and suddenly there's a federal regulation against it?

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