Bronco production update 8/9: Commodity issues far beyond MIC tops. Chip shortage reaches Bronco supply chain (NO COVID TALK)

[txozpilot]

Lol Love it!
I have my sources for my post. We will see I guess. Only time will prove if it’s right

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[Stroopaloop]

The internet is their friend. It isn't just Ford.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/gm-10-000-full-sized-203000479.html

That's just a silly answer to support ford. So screw people who don't use the interwebs then? C'mon.

 

[iamchewby]

Agreed, how would we go about that?

Check with @Administrator

 

[SpringTXOR]

Lol Love it!
I have my sources for my post. We will see I guess. Only time will prove if it’s right

So did your source tell you if they start with old built or newer built ones to replace these tops?

 

[Stroopaloop]

This is the part that makes me scratch my head a little. You want to plan around a date - I get that. But if the date you are given is based on wildly inaccurate, faulty data, wouldn't it be better at this point to wait another month or two or three and get a better picture of what's actually happening?

Ford giving wildly faulty projections based on data that is completely unreliable seems like a recipe for disaster. If the last couple of months have taught us anything it's that none of us should plan around the dates we've been given - and that's coming from a guy who's been given an actual build date (quite a few of them, actually) not just a random estimate.

I totally understand wanting to hear something. I just think the reality of the current situation makes it next to impossible for Ford, and the efforts of people who would build the model to put that estimate together are better deployed trying to add value to fixing this thing, imho.

So here's how I backwards plan. Ford gives me an estimate say Q1 22. I now have a at the earliest and by a latest window to take care of what I need to take care of before my bronco comes. That then allows me to come up with my primary, alternate, contingency. D emergency plans, which allows me to adjust to Ford's actions. I'm covered.
And waiting a month or two or three!?! Ford was supposed to do this in May 2021! Instead they send a Bs email about hardtops. I didn't order a hardtop.Im tired of excuses. Ford knows who is getting a my 21 and my 22 they need to pull up their panties and make the calls. I'm waiting until whenever it takes to get my bronco. But this will be the last ford I buy.

 

[Boxer4]

Where is this soft top FE?

As I was told, it’s going to be a Southeast Pa retail delivery of an abandoned order. I took the WT pick because I thought that all WT were to be MIC. The WT is in South Carolina.

 

[txozpilot]

So did your source tell you if they start with old built or newer built ones to replace these tops?

Mate, all I know is that there’s a communication coming that’s going to piss off a lot of people. I’m assuming you mean old built tops or are you talking Broncos?
The only certainty is that Webasto is gone and FE’s will be the only guaranteed vehicle to be delivered in 2021.. I really hope they decide to fit some of the acceptable tops to yours and others like yours but that’s not what I’ve been told is the plan.

 

[TheWoo]

So here's how I backwards plan. Ford gives me an estimate say Q1 22. I now have a at the earliest and by a latest window to take care of what I need to take care of before my bronco comes.

What you are saying in my opinion supports my point - if Ford's Q1 22 estimate would be at all accurate, I'd get it. But Ford saying Q1 22 is just a wild guess at this point based on very little relevant data. So what happens when you backwards plan based on that, but suddenly things shift on the ground and Ford says, "nevermind, we now see it as Q3 22" and then in September they say "Oh, wait, things have shifted around again and we're moving you up and building you next month!"

Things are changing so rapidly, that giving estimates is counterproductive as it creates additional expectations Ford can't be confident about meeting.

Ford knows who is getting a my 21 and my 22 they need to pull up their panties and make the calls.

This I just disagree with. The ground is shifting under Ford's feet so quickly at this point that they don't know this. Based on what has happened to the August schedule over the last week it certainly appears the landscape just shifted pretty significantly again.

 

[King Dusty]

Talk about kicking a hornets nest!

I imagine a couple folks will be disappointed if their '21 holding pen broncs get delivered in '22 with later order folks taking delivery of the '22s at the same time. Oof. Bold prediction, a '22 bronco will be identical to a '21, if for no other reason than that.

 

[tehjukebox]

Mate, all I know is that there’s a communication coming that’s going to piss off a lot of people. I’m assuming you mean old built tops or are you talking Broncos?
The only certainty is that Webasto is gone and FE’s will be the only guaranteed vehicle to be delivered in 2021.. I really hope they decide to fit some of the acceptable tops to yours and others like yours but that’s not what I’ve been told is the plan.

 

[Stroopaloop]

What you are saying in my opinion supports my point - if Ford's Q1 22 estimate would be at all accurate, I'd get it. But Ford saying Q1 22 is just a wild guess at this point based on very little relevant data. So what happens when you backwards plan based on that, but suddenly things shift on the ground and Ford says, "nevermind, we now see it as Q3 22" and then in September they say "Oh, wait, things have shifted around again and we're moving you up and building you next month!"

Like I said the way I backwards plan using PACE (PRIMARY, ALTERNATE, CONTINGENCY, EMERGENCY) If they ever give me an estimated date, I'll be covered. There's things I and I'm sure others would like to get done before my Bronco shows up. Not knowing if this thing is showing up tomorrow or 6 months from now doesn't help.

Things are changing so rapidly, that giving estimates is counterproductive as it creates additional expectations Ford can't be confident about meeting.

This I just disagree with. The ground is shifting under Ford's feet so quickly at this point that they don't know this. Based on what has happened to the August schedule over the last week it certainly appears the landscape just shifted pretty significantly again.

So alllll the remaining reservation holders can be fit into my 21. No way. There's a cutoff. It needs to officially be put out by ford to all of us.

 

[bigtexyahoocom]

Mate, all I know is that there’s a communication coming that’s going to piss off a lot of people. I’m assuming you mean old built tops or are you talking Broncos?
The only certainty is that Webasto is gone and FE’s will be the only guaranteed vehicle to be delivered in 2021.. I really hope they decide to fit some of the acceptable tops to yours and others like yours but that’s not what I’ve been told is the plan.

Is this communication going to involve Ford eating some crow? I think them taking a little responsibility for this mess instead of pinning it on everything under the sun but themselves would go a long way with a lot of folks, myself included.

 

[txozpilot]

What’s Vague? My previous post said halting all deliveries of Bronco’s for 21 except for FE until they get the new roof supplier up and running.
Everything else will be 2022. Don’t know when In 2022 as COVID is a an unknown factor.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

LOTS of discussion here, and some of the options being brought up jive with *possibilities* being considered. AFAIK, there isn't a firm decision one way or another. All FEs will be built out in MY21 (and honestly those still awaiting a VIN and scheduling shouldn't be waiting too much longer). Some more MIC MY21s are probably going to be built, but I doubt we'll see them any appreciable numbers.

The main thing to watch is scheduling both this week and next (assuming they both end up happening as scheduled). How many members here will see their non-FE MIC units scheduled? If we see many (any?), that's a decent sign. I don't think we will.

Another kick in the sack is that from everything I've been told none of the purgatory units are awaiting any type of inspection any longer. They're just stuck waiting on solution(s).

I've caught wind of several alternatives being considered... some more drastic than others.

While I have your attention (and while the Band Camp jokes are going strong!)... our program's new Premier drums (example below) are DONE and will leave the factory tomorrow or Wednesday. My company, Musick Limited - Premier USA, is providing these drums at cost and I'm personally covering all the importation fees. However, freight to get them here is clocking in at about $2,400 in the current market... about 3 times what it should be in a normal market.

If any of you would like to help offset some of these costs, please know how much myself, my kids, and our booster club would appreciate it. Contributions can be sent via Paypal to [email protected].

I appreciate being a part of this community!

Quick note here to say THANK YOU! You guys contributed almost $500 since yesterday to help offset the looming $2,400 freight bill. We have some local businesses here who are interested in stepping up to help as well. If anyone else would like to contribute, we could definitely still use it.

Y'all are amazing.

 

[chtucker]

What’s Vague? My previous post said halting all deliveries of Bronco’s for 21 except for FE until they get the new roof supplier up and running.
Everything else will be 2022. Don’t know when In 2022 as COVID is a an unknown factor.

So they are going to cancel production of non built scheduled MIC top vehicles?

just curious- I win either way- I have an FE on order (not scheduled/no VIN) and a Badlands scheduled/VIN/MIC

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