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Im not sure what you think you are trying to say, but that sentence is most definitely structured incorrectly.

The Bronco does not "connect your phone to Fordpass". Any phone anywhere can download the Fordpass app. You can then pair and sync that phone with the new Ford. If its a "connected" vehicle, it now sends all that info to Ford and their partners. Ford is forcing dealers to force their customers to do this.

The Mid Package on the Bronco is what happens to include the "connectability".

"Connected" Broncos use your phone to send information via Fordpass.

I suggest you read the FordPass Privacy Policy, do some research on Ford's partnership with insurance companies and then get back to me when you know what you're talking about.
Every single 2021 Ford has the embedded modem, that's what I'm trying to say. It does not require the mid package to have the embedded ATT modem. It does not require you to subscribe to NAV for them to track that modem. If you choose to sign up for FordPass service or NAV service, that's up to you, but you are not buying a Bronco without the modem.
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Doesn't sync4 have over the air capability with bulit in modem? All come with this so if they want to know where you are it won't be too hard even without Ford pass.
Its not so much about knowing where I am, its about insurance companies raising my insurance rate because they know every time I speed and every mile I drive unbuckled.

Progressive started this years ago with that OBDII plug-in.
 

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If you choose to sign up for FordPass service or NAV service, that's up to you, but you are not buying a Bronco without the modem.
Unfortunately, its NOT up to me. As Ive been trying to say, Ford dealers are forcing customers to sync the phone to their new 2021 Ford "connected" vehicle. Literally doing it for them while they are in the car before they drive off the lot after purchasing.

The "Standard Package" is not "connected". Mid packages and higher include the "Connected" system.





"For the SYNC4 Connected Navigation or Connected Built-In Navigation services, Telenav or Garmin (depending on vehicle equipment and services used) may receive information including a unique vehicle identifier, the vehicle’s current GPS location, route and/or destination information, address or point of interest search requests, results, and selections."

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-privacy-policy.html#:~:text=We may share your personal,protect the personal safety of

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Unfortunately, that is not an option. Ford is making the dealers sign up their customers for Fordpass upon delivery. Actually have to do this with their phone and personally download the Fordpass app on their phone and then pair their phone to their new car then sync it up. If the dealer does not do this, they are penalized ($$$) by Ford. I know this because I personally worked at a Ford dealership and had to do this very recently.
If that’s true then my dealership is paying the penalty for at least three vehicles ... my Raptor, my sons xlt and my fathers Ranger all have Ford Connect and the dealership never connected it - I use it on my truck and my son does in his, connected days after purchase, but my 81 year old dad could care less and has never connected. And - what if I happened to still be on an old flip phone - makes no sense ...
 

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Its not so much about knowing where I am, its about insurance companies raising my insurance rate because they know every time I speed and every mile I drive unbuckled.

Progressive started this years ago with that OBDII plug-in.
You had to opt-in with Progressive to have that tracking for that program. Do you have anything that states that Ford shares this information with your insurance company and allows your insurance company to use your driving habits to adjust your rates without your direct consent with insurance company to participate in that insurance company's program?
 

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Unfortunately, its NOT up to me. As Ive been trying to say, Ford dealers are forcing customers to sync the phone to their new 2021 Ford "connected" vehicle. Literally doing it for them while they are in the car before they drive off the lot after purchasing.

The "Standard Package" is not "connected". Mid packages and higher include the "Connected" system.





"For the SYNC4 Connected Navigation or Connected Built-In Navigation services, Telenav or Garmin (depending on vehicle equipment and services used) may receive information including a unique vehicle identifier, the vehicle’s current GPS location, route and/or destination information, address or point of interest search requests, results, and selections."

https://owner.ford.com/fordpass/fordpass-privacy-policy.html#:~:text=We may share your personal,protect the personal safety of

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Your wrong on both. You can absolutely decline to sign up for FordPass services. Yes Ford salesman are pushy to get you to sign up, but they can't make you. The "connected" means nothing here, every single 2021 Ford has the embedded modem. Thats all they need to track you and sell that data to partners. Thats why they all have it, Ford hopes to turn this data into $.
 

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There is a "black box" in all new cars that records that data. Insurance companies don't have access to that information, car manufacturers do.
 

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Its not hard. Leave your smartphone at home and drive an old car. On second thought, that seems to be an impossible task for some people.
“Impossible task” lol no most people just don’t give a shit. Just out smart them all, go back to a landline and don’t buy a Bronco!
 

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There is a "black box" in all new cars that records that data. Insurance companies don't have access to that information, car manufacturers do.
Ford has entered into partnerships with some insurance companies to offer plans like what Progressive did with their OBD-II device. You still have to opt-in to those plans as far as I can tell.
 
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You had to opt-in with Progressive to have that tracking for that program. Do you have anything that states that Ford shares this information with your insurance company and allows your insurance company to use your driving habits to adjust your rates without your direct consent with insurance company to participate in that insurance company's program?
No they don’t share it with MY insurance co., yet. They just partnered with an ins co to sell that data to. But that is data that eventually all ins companies are going to want to buy.
READ THE PRIVACY POLICY
 
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Your wrong on both. You can absolutely decline to sign up for FordPass services. Yes Ford salesman are pushy to get you to sign up, but they can't make you. The "connected" means nothing here, every single 2021 Ford has the embedded modem. Thats all they need to track you and sell that data to partners. Thats why they all have it, Ford hopes to turn this data into $.
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