Ford Snitching to the Cops

[Mtrctylarry]

https://www.theblaze.com/return/big...h5DQBKrf3jjl_dH1vP_aem_ubbUf2Jq8BlX7MRgHzD6OA

How you vote has consequences….One side is definitely for nanny state BS regulations! Do you remember who instituted the 'Double Nickel' national speed limit...

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[DarthLincoln]

LOL.
Read the patent yourself
https://ppubs.uspto.gov/api/pdf/dow...kLTQ1MTMtYjVjZi1hZDFmOTA1ZDQ5ZjciLCJleHAiOjB9

Also the system requires additional cameras, LIDAR, and radar devices, microprocessor, software to be added to the observing vehicle and involves communication about law enforcement activity. Ford isn’t going to just add this likely pricy system to every vehicle.

 

[HoosierSquatch]

LOL.
Read the patent yourself
https://ppubs.uspto.gov/api/pdf/dow...kLTQ1MTMtYjVjZi1hZDFmOTA1ZDQ5ZjciLCJleHAiOjB9

Also the system requires additional cameras, LIDAR, and radar devices, microprocessor, software to be added to the observing vehicle and involves communication about law enforcement activity. Ford isn’t going to just add this likely pricy system to every vehicle.

I couldn’t resist. But it also always starts some where…. If I was that worried about any of it, I wouldn’t have new vehicle or a phone with me 24/7, ring cameras around my house, and only pay with cash. Big brother is going to big brother.

 

[DarthLincoln]

I couldn’t resist. But it also always starts some where…. If I was that worried about any of it, I wouldn’t have new vehicle or a phone with me 24/7, ring cameras around my house, and only pay with cash. Big brother is going to big brother.

yup. and conspiracists are gonna invent conspiracies.

 

[dpAtlanta]

yup. and conspiracists are gonna invent conspiracies.

God bless “Common Sense”.

 

[DBX2]

we’re 2 degrees away from police state anyways, why not have your toaster snitch on you for talking about doing 75 in a 65 🥱

We’re never alone.

we’re 2 degrees away from police state anyways, why not have your toaster snitch on you for talking about doing 75 in a 65 🥱

We’re never alone!

 

[B22-2023]

So maybe I'm missing something, but that looks to be for an interceptor, and all of the cameras and such are in the cruiser, not taking photos from your own vehicle?

That the first thing I thought when reading the flow diagram. Why even read the article? It’s for a Police Interceptor. They have a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks, and of course a cop computer.

 

[dpAtlanta]

They should call this patented technology SCMODS.

 

[B22-2023]

They should call this patented technology SCMODS.

Bet there will be recalls on the cigarette lighter.

 

[Jtbob3]

LOL.
Read the patent yourself
https://ppubs.uspto.gov/api/pdf/dow...kLTQ1MTMtYjVjZi1hZDFmOTA1ZDQ5ZjciLCJleHAiOjB9

Also the system requires additional cameras, LIDAR, and radar devices, microprocessor, software to be added to the observing vehicle and involves communication about law enforcement activity. Ford isn’t going to just add this likely pricy system to every vehicle.

This is really focused at integrating speed detection with the on board infotainment system (i.e. screen). The car might already have enough sensors since some cars already have radar and lidar but could include adding additional sensors. The sensors are not limited to radar and lidar, so stereo vision could be used for instance. It can transmit the data to a server or another car.

If it can use existing sensors on the car, it is really just a software update because the existing microprocessors on the car can probably handle this. Existing sensors probably limit the detection range though. This would be really cheap to implement.

Whether or not your car can tell the cops about your speeding or speeders near you really depends on the terms of service that you agree to. Without a warrant the police are allowed to buy data that is commercially available. If the terms of service allow Ford to collect and sell the data, the cops can get it without a warrant.

If this is just integrated into cop cars it is not a lot different than what they have. The cop can get your speed and radio anyone who will listen. This integrates it. The downside I see is it would allow a ticket to be mailed to you vs having to pursue you.

The automatic license plate readers are a lot more intrusive.

 

[Soulstice]

Looks like I'll have to adjust my tire circumference via FORScan back to the factory settings.

^ this

With this “option” insurance might go down a $1, forscan will go up $2. I guess I need to dive into the forscan threads and learn how to manage my laptop on wheels.

Driving is a privilege, and cars an expensive hobby. It’s money against everyone. There are no sides. Stick together citizens, or they will gladly shake us down for all we got.

 

[Shazamalingo]

It’s not a potent. Just an application. And they are having a hard time getting it granted.

That said, they can snitch with or without a patent

 

[DarthLincoln]

This is really focused at integrating speed detection with the on board infotainment system (i.e. screen). The car might already have enough sensors since some cars already have radar and lidar but could include adding additional sensors. The sensors are not limited to radar and lidar, so stereo vision could be used for instance. It can transmit the data to a server or another car.

If it can use existing sensors on the car, it is really just a software update because the existing microprocessors on the car can probably handle this. Existing sensors probably limit the detection range though. This would be really cheap to implement.

Whether or not your car can tell the cops about your speeding or speeders near you really depends on the terms of service that you agree to. Without a warrant the police are allowed to buy data that is commercially available. If the terms of service allow Ford to collect and sell the data, the cops can get it without a warrant.

If this is just integrated into cop cars it is not a lot different than what they have. The cop can get your speed and radio anyone who will listen. This integrates it. The downside I see is it would allow a ticket to be mailed to you vs having to pursue you.

The automatic license plate readers are a lot more intrusive.

Yeah, it might not be that expensive if a law enforcement vehicle already has the necessary hardware. The patent only specify the use of radar and LIDAR for determination of speed and cameras are only used to identify the vehicle.

I admit I don’t know much about radar and LIDAR systems, but I think the systems used by police for catching speeders have a longer range and narrower field of view than the systems used for ADAS and some autonomous driving features that are designed for mapping the environment and object motion detection? I could be wrong. But to be legally admissible evidence, the system would need to be calibrated and certified regularly, which doesn’t fit the suggestion that this system could be added to consumer vehicles.

Last point, the patent specifically claims the vehicle with this system (item 105) is a “law-enforcement vehicle”, and the driver of that vehicle (item 110) is a “law-enforcement officer”. This patent simply does not claim nor suggest nor covers adding this kind of system to consumer vehicles. The Blaze article is fearmongering.

 

[Nc211]

It’s not just Ford and the other car makers. It’s also the apps on your phone where location tracking is active all the time (allegedly). “MyRadar” weather app is one of them that tracks and insurance companies buy that data to judge the driver.

I’m so damn sick and tired of the word “tech”. I hate nearly all of it. Of the tech that I like, if the price to enjoy it means constant battle for privacy and personal freedoms that Arlington Cemetery is full of our Finest to protect, then I say f’it all and dial back the clock 30 years. I still have a Motorola Razr around here somewhere, and haven’t heard a single song any better than those on those CD’s sitting in that black nylon case in a box in the attic…

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