ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[Panmort]

Hoooooly shit. I feel terrible for anyone that didn’t get out of their order. The writing was indeed on the wall. ADV handled this horribly, even if their claim is true. Zero transparency from them during this entire process.

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[BroncoBoy22]

What? A few weeks ago it was suggested on the forum, that a company called APG might take over production of the hardtops from ADV. APG being viewed as a kind of white knight stepping in. But the message above paints APG in a much darker light. This whole thing is so bizarre.

Not that I'm wanting to question veracity, but it's the internet so, is this for sure legit that ADV has officially announced the end of trying to produce the hardtop?

I hope we eventually get to the truth, but rn ADV has zero credibility. Until proven otherwise I will believe APG. Because ADV has done this before under a different company name and they’ve been lying the whole time about this top with for seemingly no reason. Why wasn’t APG’s participation in the creation known since the beginning? They have a good rep in the Bronco community, that would have bolstered sales.

ADV and APG both make Bronco fenders so they are competitors in some ways. Seems weird they were partners from the beginning but not on the front facing side

 

[j_marinelli]

ADV Google reviews already has 3 reviews based on the email they sent out

I hope those that stuck it out get their money back.

 

[2023bronco]

Waiting for the Lite Brite shoe to drop, lol.

 

[2023bronco]

Until proven otherwise I will believe APG.

You'll stick up for the silent partner? Ok.

 

[userdude]

What? A few weeks ago it was suggested on the forum, that a company called APG might take over production of the hardtops from ADV. APG being viewed as a kind of white knight stepping in. But the message above paints APG in a much darker light. This whole thing is so bizarre.

Not that I'm wanting to question veracity, but it's the internet so, is this for sure legit that ADV has officially announced the end of trying to produce the hardtop?

That was based on what @Tye said in another thread, concerning the top that APG put on the Lite Brite Bronco they built recently he was saying they were going to produce. This doesn't necessarily bely that, it just (supposedly?) left out that APG was part of the process all along, something ADV conveniently left out, as has Tye, who hasn't said anything since those two (?) comments on the other thread.

Whose telling the truth? What are the facts? We have a long way to go, and may never know. A lawsuit isn't proof of anything, and ADV's definitely been untoward about a lot of stuff. Throwing that all on an undisclosed partner and saying they can't refund anymore might be convenient, or it might be true, or it might be somewhere in the middle.

 

[BroncoBoy22]

You'll stick up for the silent partner? Ok.

Idk what happened, but one we know FOR SURE has been lying. We’ll see if APG also did something wrong

 

[pakrat]

Damn. It is definitely off their website.

All I can say is we tried. I feel awful for all of the ones who didn't bail.

 

[BroncoBoy22]

That was based on what @Tye said in another thread, concerning the top that APG put on the Lite Brite Bronco they built recently. He was saying they were going to produce. This doesn't necessarily bely that, it just (supposedly?) left out that APG was part of the process all along, something ADV conveniently left out as as Tye.

Whose telling the truth? What are the facts? We have a long way to go, and may never know. A lawsuit isn't proof of anything, and ADV's definitely been untoward about a lot of stuff. Throwing that all on an unknown partner and saying they can't refund anymore might be convenient, or it might be true, or it might be somewhere in the middle.

Exactly!

 

[userdude]

Until proven otherwise I will believe APG.

Do you know of any official statement? I haven't heard anything from APG about this, just what Tye said and the fact Lite Brite had a top just like ADV's supposed top and they said "watch for developments" in their walk around video.

 

[Panmort]

 

[BroncoBoy22]

Do you know of any official statement? I haven't heard anything from APG about this, just what Tye said and the fact Lite Brite had a top just like ADV's supposed top and they said "watch for developments" in their walk around video.

Nope I don’t, I have interacted with APG and the owner before. It was all fantastic so this is a shock to me. Hopefully they make a statement soon

 

[j_marinelli]

If y'all get a chance read the 35 page court filing that was posted.

This one part is a little eye opening

 

[userdude]

Nope I don’t, I have interacted with APG and the owner before. It was all fantastic so this is a shock to me. Hopefully they make a statement soon

I've only heard good things about APG, but none of that is first-hand experience. I do think it's possible ADV didn't have the skill to design the top, brought in APG, and when ADV didn't perform in some way, APG decided to cut them out of the deal. If they did file for the patent, I mean that happens (even in overseas manufacturing, you have to be very careful about IP). How much did ADV legally own of what they're saying APG patented? That's all to be seen.

 

[pakrat]

Gemayel?!

This some sort of Lord of the Rings fantasy going on?

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