Steering rack bushings cheap options and alternatives. Reviews pending!

[Theherofails]

Not sure if it is snake oil or not, but:

BB = original r&d + hand made in USA
RC = copy cat + mass produced in China

It’s a delrin sleeve. You can bulk order them for a few bucks each.. I don’t think American made matters much in this context.

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[cyberfalco]

Since you know the reason - which isn’t it? The inability to sell the housing or the inability to scale and reduce cost of the bushing(s)? I listed two probabilities. No research was done because I just don’t care (as most don’t)

You do care. Which is why you are commenting in this thread and talking poorly about vendors of which you have no knowledge other than a price.

I will not be installing either in any case.

 

[V1Rotate]

You do care. Which is why you are commenting in this thread and talking poorly about vendors of which you have no knowledge other than a price.

I will not be installing either in any case.

*I care about the health of my steering rack. I 100% do not care what excuse/reasoning is given for charging $350 for a single Delrin sleeve.. Just making some time pass by providing some possibilities. Also, when did I talk poorly of any vendor? I merely provided two reasons as to why one of them might not be interested in producing both sides. You seem to have a vested interest in one of them.. and that’s cool. But don’t be touchy and defensive. I’m a consumer (as are most all of us that don’t work for one of the two companies that have come up regarding this post).. so yeah - we’re interested in price. This has taken a strange turn

 

[Tex]

You do care. Which is why you are commenting in this thread and talking poorly about vendors of which you have no knowledge other than a price.

I will not be installing either in any case.

I was hoping for an explanation or reason, but I guess you don't have one either.

 

[Snacktime]

Having held both products and test fit both products on my broken steering rack I will make the following statements.

Drivers side
They are not 100% Identical. Rough country has looser tolerances. Neither bushing looks to be better than the other. Rough country snap ring is better as it is easier to remove.

Passenger side
Rough Country gives you a bushing that will prevent the metal from shaving off the housing and causing wear on the steering assist system. BroncBuster housing gives you a stronger housing with a indestructible bushing(housing will fail before the bushing).

My concern is the failure of the factory drivers bushing(tensioner failure) can lead to complete loss of steering. This is an extremely dangerous failure and will most likely be part of a recall in the future. Till this is fixed all HOSS 1.0 steering racks should have a new bushing installed. Go argue away I don't care about the Broncbuster vs Rough Country comparison you need an aftermarket driver side bushing.

 

[NORCALGXP]

My concern is the failure of the factory drivers bushing(tensioner failure) can lead to complete loss of steering. This is an extremely dangerous failure and will most likely be part of a recall in the future. Till this is fixed all HOSS 1.0 steering racks should have a new bushing installed. Go argue away I don't care about the Broncbuster vs Rough Country comparison you need an aftermarket driver side bushing.

To clarify do you mean for the belt?

 

[Snacktime]

To clarify do you mean for the belt?

The drivers side tensioner that I broke.

 

[broncorik]

It’s a delrin sleeve. You can bulk order them for a few bucks each.. I don’t think American made matters much in this context.

Agreed! RC bushings are made in USA (Tennessee, I believe...unless RC is falsely advertising) and Delrin is made primarily outside the US...and all of us (BB included) are using parts made outside the USA every day for all kinds of things (computer chips/cell phones/LEDs/automobiles in general). Anyone who produces a bushing for a steering rack is essentially a "copycat" of the other folks who, years ago, made pretty much the same thing for another auto brand steering rack (and who sold them for much less than BB is selling them). A bushing is not as complicated as splitting an atom...and a Delrin one (even if it has a precious metal inlay added) is not worth over 300 bucks. We are ok with buying all kinds of aftermarket parts like shocks, but isn't any Icon/Fox/King shock a "copycat" version of whoever invented the first shock? At some point, I don't think we are all that concerned about exclusive loyalty and whatever prices are charged from whoever was "first"...we care about what works for us and what is with our budget. The Icon tie rods are cheaper and stronger than the BB brace, and no one seems to care that Icon didn't invent the tie rod...or that Mabett didn't invent the speaker pod. My trans skid plate came from Israel, and at the time they were the only folks making one that didn't require a crap ton of money and replacing my other skid plates to get it to fit. I had no problem buying something from somewhere far away that companies in the US couldn't seem to get sorted out in a reasonable timeframe or for a reasonable amount of money. And try to find a decent US made cell phone...or whatever device is being used to respond to this forum.

 

[NORCALGXP]

Agreed! RC bushings are made in USA (Tennessee, I believe...unless RC is falsely advertising) and Delrin is made primarily outside the US...and all of us (BB included) are using parts made outside the USA every day for all kinds of things (computer chips/cell phones/LEDs/automobiles in general).

Very well stated.

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[cyberfalco]

I was hoping for an explanation or reason, but I guess you don't have one either.

Here you are. It was because the tie rod pushing the pinion away from the rack and breaking the casting around the tentioner.



I hope that helps to explain it so you know why you are installing a bushing in the first place.

The passenger side does not have pinion that can separate from the rack. So it is probably not needed.

If a $50 part works for you, that is great. But now you know why there was originally just a bushing for the drivers side.

 

[cyberfalco]

*I care about the health of my steering rack. I 100% do not care what excuse/reasoning is given for charging $350 for a single Delrin sleeve.. Just making some time pass by providing some possibilities. Also, when did I talk poorly of any vendor? I merely provided two reasons as to why one of them might not be interested in producing both sides. You seem to have a vested interest in one of them.. and that’s cool. But don’t be touchy and defensive. I’m a consumer (as are most all of us that don’t work for one of the two companies that have come up regarding this post).. so yeah - we’re interested in price. This has taken a strange turn

I don't have a vested interest. In fact, I don't ever plan on installing a product like this. I did not feel I was being touchy. It was not my intention. You just made an assumption as to why the vendor would try to charge someone twice, inferring they were trying to rip someone off, and that seems to me like you are talking poorly about them.

When in fact, this video explains why there was only a driver side ever sold. They never touched on this being needed for the passenger side, so it may be a waste of time to do the install.



What they have done for the passenger side, is create a whole new housing end piece for more strength as they have found that the housing can crack under abuse.



I hope you find this educational. I hope your bushing provides the insurance for which you are looking.

 

[NORCALGXP]

I don't have a vested interest. In fact, I don't ever plan on installing a product like this. I did not feel I was being touchy. It was not my intention. You just made an assumption as to why the vendor would try to charge someone twice, inferring they were trying to rip someone off, and that seems to me like you are talking poorly about them.

When in fact, this video explains why there was only a driver side ever sold. They never touched on this being needed for the passenger side, so it may be a waste of time to do the install.



What they have done for the passenger side, is create a whole new housing end piece for more strength as they have found that the housing can crack under abuse.



I hope you find this educational. I hope your bushing provides the insurance for which you are looking.

Thank you for your detailed explanation and videos. However he runs 40s which only few do and he them push so hard.

 

[ICUGAZN]

Thank you for your detailed explanation and videos. However he runs 40s which only few do and he them push so hard.

And one time he added water to the 40s.

 

[Snacktime]

Passenger side upgrades are required on hoss 1.0 steering racks after the factory bushing fails. Same bushing on both sides so if one is a bad design, then both are a bad design. Issues is the passenger side starts to eat the housing and that metal will kill the plastic parts inside. Rough country offers an acceptable solution. BroncBuster offers a stronger housing with a steel bushing if you want to be out $1200. The factory isn't a long term solution and both of the other 2 options are wear items. Steel on steel doesn't last long without a lubricant.

 

[NORCALGXP]

Thank you for your detailed explanation and videos. However he runs 40s which only few do and he them push so hard.

I don't have a vested interest. In fact, I don't ever plan on installing a product like this. I did not feel I was being touchy. It was not my intention. You just made an assumption as to why the vendor would try to charge someone twice, inferring they were trying to rip someone off, and that seems to me like you are talking poorly about them.

When in fact, this video explains why there was only a driver side ever sold. They never touched on this being needed for the passenger side, so it may be a waste of time to do the install.



What they have done for the passenger side, is create a whole new housing end piece for more strength as they have found that the housing can crack under abuse.



I hope you find this educational. I hope your bushing provides the insurance for which you are looking.

Is all I get is a haha? I would recommend to him is lean how to wheel correctly on rock. Do not use the gas peddle only, bring up the rpm's to 1,200 or more depending on the situation, all the while holding the break peddle firmly, maintain rpm's, use the break peddle to modulate the forward movement. The benefit is as one release the break peddle there is no jerky forward movement and with the breaks holding it will help keep the wheels from spinning. I not a newbie 61 years old. check my profile and see my threads. All the best E.

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