💰 Official: $2500 Order Modification Offer to Wildtrak Customers (switch trims) and Non-Wildtrak Customers (modify order to remove constraints)

[j_marinelli]

I’m only asking if these constraints apply to the Bronco Raptor.
I’m a day 1 reservation holder. I received the Raptor golden ticket last year, put in my order which was then pushed to 2023 MY. I then put in an updated 2023 order which is now waiting to be scheduled.
I’m sure Ford or my dealer will eventually reach out but I’m trying to find out if this will push my order out even further. I’m guessing no one knows if this affects Raptors or not yet because I haven’t seen anything mentioned.

I'd take it as Ford knows how many Raptors its going to build in a year and that number is factored into the constraint formula (IE: if they build 500 raptors this year [I'm making that number up for this example], that means there is 500 less hard tops for regular builds.

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[j_marinelli]

And I must say, for as much as Ford has been tagged in this thread, they are avoiding it like the 2.7 fail thread

 

[broncoj11]

So on the first memo, it said if you drop those options you will get scheduled. But how soon?

 

[mpeugeot]

My understanding is that if most of the unscheduled orders (remember, they have only taken orders from people who placed 2021, 2022 orders. no new public 2023 orders have been allowed) will be scheduled and built as 2023MY. Any excess capacity beyond those orders will go to dealer inventory. I'd be shocked if they have the capacity to take new consumer orders for the MY2023.
Heck, I would be shocked if when they take MY2024 orders that all of those will get built.

Remember when the Bronco was announced, and many questioned how Ford would support so many variations and options in manufacturing? That was a good question, and it seems the answer is they simply can't. It looks great in the marketing information, but the reality is they can't.

I think that it's fair to say that they can't sustain/afford to do a lot of things. I am perhaps being a little hard on them with regards to the constraints and price protection aspect of this, because they should have never promised something that they weren't confident on being able to deliver. Not giving them a pass on this, but I can see that they are in a no win situation now.

 

[70Bronco]

Maybe Ford will announce they are really bringing back the vibe of the first gen Bronco by telling all 2-door reservations/orders they will be getting a roadster version with no roof. LOL

 

[IROCnRoll]

It’s a fair question. From what I’ve gathered based on what Granger and other discount dealers have said, they checked and were not waived off from making the offers to customers. Ford controlled the reservation system and should have been aware that certain dealers were getting quite a high volume of reservations and eventually orders. Ford could’ve stepped in at any point and let dealers and customers know that this kind of arrangement won’t fly and shut it down. Silence is complicity, imo, and all of us with below invoice deals have known for some time that we’d have to wait. Now the punishment for seeking a better deal is being applied to customers along with remaining order holders. Fair is an over used word so I’m not going to use it but Ford could’ve made this much less painful if they’d communicated better with customers.

The reservation system obviously doesn't work for Ford (or probably any other traditional automaker). It worked for Tesla because Tesla controlled the whole process. Ford isn't Tesla though.

 

[IROCnRoll]

Maybe Ford will announce they are really bringing back the vibe of the first gen Bronco by telling all 2-door reservations/orders they will be getting a roadster version with no roof. LOL

I'd probably take it. I can find a roof somewhere at some point.

 

[OmahaKevin]

Thanks for catching me up.

But what evidence do we have for “these dealers were initially given the go ahead”? Do we have anything other than the offending dealers saying so?

I’ve done a lot of work in the automotive space and I’ve never seen a manufacturer/dealer agreement that would make this acceptable and not a breach with the other dealers. The other dealers were most likely well within their rights to complain.

Several dealers on this forum were at the fall 2020 dealer meeting and said that Ford specifically congratulated Granger on their Grangetober idea .... right before yanking the rug out from under all dealers that outperformed.
(Just hearsay, but that was the word at the time.)

 

[Rjacks258]

Well damn, Wildtrak values about to skyrocket. Anyone wanna buy one? Lol.
Less than 24 hours and 24 pages.

 

[KimDracula]

part of the problem!

I'm part of the problem how? Because I'm trying to hook up someone with a Bronco instead of letting it go to the dealer so they can mark it up??

Ok...

no, you’re part of the problem because you ordered more then one Bronco then you obviously need, hence the reason you’re trying to sell it now when you haven’t even received it yet. Not that hard to figure that out

 

[mpeugeot]

How do you know? Official source?

Because you are not in the clear without a VIN number. It's not an official source, and priority 2 does mean that you are in a better position than anyone else with a higher number... but until you have that VIN number, you are not scheduled, and if you are not scheduled, you are not in the clear.

Even with a scheduled VIN, things can still (and have) gone horribly wrong for people (including vehicles totalled in transit). You are in the clear once you take delivery of the vehicle and really not before then. Now once you have been scheduled and have a VIN, the probability of not being in the clear drops to a point of near certainty that you will get your Bronco... at some point.

 

[Karl_in_Chicago]

This gets so confusing for the buyer.

For says "Make sure you negotiate a price with your dealer." So we do that.

Then Ford says, "Sorry, you picked the wrong dealer. We're not giving them allocation."

Now Ford is saying, "You picked the wrong Bronco trim. Try again."

I'm not a mind reader, Ford. What do I have to do to buy a vehicle?

Ford wants you to be a *willing* participant in the dealer markup scam. The vouchers they are offering are merely for the industrial vats of vaseline customers need to buy.

 

[mpeugeot]

All dealerships were aware that allocations are a way of life with Ford and knew they were subject to change, unfortunately customers of the dealerships weren’t. Dealerships deliberately taking an unusually high amount of orders for a specific model knew the risk, again customers did not.

Through Ford's website, making Ford complicit in the process, they knew EXACTLY how many orders they had for each dealer and NEVER took any action to stop it. This is on Ford, as they could have disabled the build and price on a dealer to dealer basis once allocation was exceeded by say 10%, 50%, 100%, or even 400% - but Ford didn't. Don't blame the dealer for accepting the orders from Ford's website.

 

[sm_cc_03]

If (and it's a very big if) Ford will allow us to keep 2 door orders and just remove Sasquatch and Lux, this could work out well. I'm ok moving from a squatch BL to non-squatch and the difference between Lux and High is negligible for me at least.

With Grangtober pricing ($2k below invoice), price protection, and an additional $2500 off, a 2 door, High package BL will be an absolute smoking deal given what these go for currently. Shoot, I might make these changes even if PP wasn't going away just to guarantee a 2023 build date and get the $2500. I can always add a lift and 35s later if I need them.

But given how Ford has treated us to date, I'm guessing 1) Ford won't let us keep 2 door orders given no soft top option, or 2) if they do, they won't be able to build all the BL builds people switch to and so will still cancel our unfulfilled orders and take away PP in 2024.

We'll see

 

[ET13]

2D/4D?

4D with leather

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