I tried using the 5100s set at 2” but couldn’t stand the ride. It felt like there was no down travel left. Ending up setting them back to zero and using a regular 2” leveling kit.
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Why not both? The NAIAS would be the perfect place for a reveal - Spring, outdoors, on Ford's home turf. That's my bet for the reveal.Ah dang it-so much for trying to read into things
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While understanding sometimes photos don't do justice in terms of trail difficulty, I'd say there is a range of off-road driving, in between that shot of your truck on a fairly low obstacle trail, and people driving over refrigerator sized boulders. People take new JLs rock crawling. You can see any number of videos on YouTube of people rock crawling, driving up and down rocky ledges and encountering other obstacles in their vehicles. My hope is the new Bronco is designed to excel in that stuff.I didn't even include desert racing or pre running in the desert in my break down of Bronco usage. But if there is a Raptor variant; that type of usage will be much higher than 1%, While there are plenty of pavement queen Raptors. There is a significant amount of owners who drive them real hard. Enough for Ford Performance to justify having a free of charge Raptor Assault offroad school you can attend to learn how to not die in your 5900lb flying offroad death machine.
In the context of the the comment threads being reference here rock crawling is a extreme branch of "offroading" and is likely being accurately represented when conversations points are referencing swamping in 1 ton axles into a 1/4ton vehicle.
I think it is safe to say the consideration of rock clawing suggests to potential to damage body and chassis components for any stock offroad vehicle. Which is something no one making payments on a vehicle wants to happen.
You are describing "wheeling, offroading, hitting the trails" something that a lot of stock 4x4 body on frame vehicle can do. I know, I just did a 6500 mile overlanding trip through the Rockies and BC with leveled F150 SCREW on 35's; about and 1/8th of that being through 4x4 trails and janky service roads. Went every where my buddies JKU went with a couple extra K turns. Quality tires and the correct tire pressure get you 80% of the way. The Bronco will go through technical terrian where 4low is needed just fine, because the Ranger does already.
Not sure if the following video link will post correctly. Not my video, but I was on this same Moab Rim trail a while back, and at that spot where the Jeep comes close to rolling, a buddy broke an axle shaft in his Land Rover. We had to winch him up, just so he could turn around, because backing up was getting dicey. And believe me, you don't want to roll over that edge because it's a long drop, lol. Anyway, I give this just as an example of something above what you were probably doing in your loaded full sized truck, but below the kitted out custom rigs.
I almost went over backwards in my rzr going up that obstacle.
I agree with you. Tons of good stuff in Utah and Colorado that will push a JL to its limit, without too much risk of body damage. Unfortunately I believe the JL is going to remain in a league of its own.
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Exactly. The Jeep is a one trick pony. The Bronco is going to be able to do more, better. Except only in extreme rock crawling but in every other way it should be better. Including trials. I’m totally ok with that.
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I disagree. The performance and durability of the SFA will be realized even on moderate trails, or in the snow or mud. Do you think Ford will offer a factory front locker? No effing way.
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They offer a factory Torsen front diff in the IFS of the Raptor, no reason they couldn't do the same for the Bronco. I'd rather have a Torsen than a locker in the front for doing anything at any sort of speed, personally. My Pajero Evo has Torsens front and back and the traction in the snow is unreal but it doesn't interfere with the steering at speed like a locked front diff would.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
Of course SFA is easier and has less things to break and I won’t be mad at all if the Bronco came with SFA.
However, if they make a good IFS it will make the Bronco more well rounded IMO.
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This. Seeing as how the Bronco is geared more for off-roaders, I'd be shocked if a front torsen wasn't available as an option or on certain trim levels.
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Unfortunately the Raptor front end can’t hold up to an open diff, let alone the Torsen.
A locker is out of the question because the rest of the components could never handle it.
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Would it change your mind if they did? Ram did with the power wagon, GM did with the ZR2, I mean once you've locked all 4, how bad do you really need that articulation anyway...
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Cool ride along video by TFL:
No significant technical analysis we dont already know but just cool to see it in motion.
I like the muted style of the aerodynamic elements, I wonder if aspects those will make it to a production version
Check out the input shaft angle at 4:36, that's not factory, CRINGE. I don't know why they would have had to move it like that
No significant technical analysis we dont already know but just cool to see it in motion.
I like the muted style of the aerodynamic elements, I wonder if aspects those will make it to a production version
Check out the input shaft angle at 4:36, that's not factory, CRINGE. I don't know why they would have had to move it like that
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No, I still believe a stock JLR Dana 44 will outperform and outlast whatever IFS Ford builds. However, it would instill a small amount of confidence that they’ve built a system that could withstand some abuse. A locked front end under warranty would be great, but a warranty doesn’t get me out of the woods.
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