New 60 Day Push...WTH?

[Butzy]

This thread has gone the way of most "hold" threads.

• Someone pissed about being pushed.
• Someone states they don't know manufacturing processes and big business. Pissing match ensues.
• Someone states they ordered a Bronco and received it in a nanosecond, so it can't possible be real that this happens.
• Someone states complainers are whiny entitled biotches.
• Someone mentions being a day 1er and still waiting.
• Someone summarizes the thread.

This is the most accurate post in this thread and I'm guilty of some of the statements

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[KompressorV12]

If it makes you feel any better my 2022 Sea-Doo RXP-X 300 is sitting at the dealer without chips too. This isn't a ford issue for the many people who claim ford should be out of business lol

 

[telenerd]

We are up to page 4. I’m not counting.

 

[OCNORB1974]

I am so freaking pi#@ed right now. Not only for me but EVERYONE being pushed to July and August! I know reservations mean sh@t(first 45 min)....I know A LOT of us made compromises when ordering to "get it quicker"(MIC, tow package). And I realize this has been addressed here before. BUT HOLY HELL @Ford!!!!! WTH!!?? Dont get it confused....I am happy seeing people from all builds receive their trucks! But it also hits a a kinda way! P#$ed, happy for others, guilty( I havnt waited as long as others) & jealous all at the same time! How in the HELL did a company whose claim to fame is the assembly line f this up so bad!?? Sorry for the rant

You have to have parts for the "assembly line" to work. Ford doesn't control the entire supply chain. Why cant people understand this, do you not watch the news?

 

[Rebel Bronc]

For those of us who believe we are destined for a build date in 2023, the glass is half full! There is price protection, mod tops, and probably a new shade of gray!

 

[Raptor911]

You could get the all "new" 2023 Tacoma with only 2 new updates and one of those updates is a chrome package:

 

[Tme]

Just looked and saw our two Jan builds on chip hold got pushed to mid-late July also. So how can we build new broncos that have said module but not finish the ones built 4 months ago?

Oh, and what about the f'n bailment? Ship me the customers f'n bronco and let us finish the damn thing!

Where are you getting the pushed date from? Ours is stuck in In Production with no dates other than the Blend date anywhere.

 

[Shamalama86]

Those of us who are chip hold were given a resolution date of around 5/10 back in march or so. The system within Ford just added another 60+ days to the ETA. Mine is 7/29 now, produced 1/14

My dealership just called me and said good news sounds like it’s arriving mid June. This was built January and was suppose to be at dealership February and kept getting pushed . Now your saying all those broncos just got pushed 60 days?

 

[Monster1926]

Don’t forget about the priority orders they handed out to dealers in the beginning and the dealer allocations and the raptor allocations and changing the whole dealer allocation formulas. Ford screwing me around made me order a wrangler.

 

[markpilip]

For those members defending Ford on this thread, and in particular those who have an understanding of production line management, I appreciate the feedback. And believe me, even us less knowledgeable on the ins and outs of auto manufacturing can understand the global constraint issues. But for the Ford Bronco production in 2022, the chip shortages have been isolated to a few weeks at worst in Jan and April and then complete vehicles have come off the line and been delivered to happy customers. Ford has chosen this method of production which largely ignores the customers put out to pasture.

The lack of communication is the compounding factor. It’s been stated here that Ford focuses on manufacturing and dealers should do the communicating. But the dealers know f&ck all because Ford doesnt tell them anything. Yet Ford still refers us to our dealers. It’s insulting. There is no network set up for this and that is a failure on Ford’s part. We’re 5 months into this latest fiasco called the Bronco rollout. Ford can do better and should be able to by now. I suspect they dont because they fear any transparency will bring negative feedback. If they had been honest from the front, they would have lost much less goodwill, IMO.

The latest push out of EDD is arbitrary, and I suspect most of us will still be waiting come
August. To me, it’s Ford admitting it does not know when we’ll get our orders without officially saying it. Based on history, it’s likely the only communication we’ll get, which is sad.

The thing that I find the most upsetting is Ford's inability to learn.

They had Dirt Mountain 1.0 with the MIC top problem last summer.

It's like they never did a post-mortem on what what wrong there, identified a communication problem, and developed some way to address it *just in case* it happened again.

And this is Dirt Mountain 2.0 and their communication problems are--as far as I can tell--even WORSE the second time around.

Incredible.

 

[Kiowa]

Setting aside the obvious disappointment, I disagree on the statement that dealers, not the end user, should be deemed the “customer” of Ford. Legally, title to the manufactured good passes through the dealer- but that logic would indicate that P&G’s customers are its distrIbutors, not the parents buying the diapers. P&G’s and Ford’s relationships with the customers pull the orders through their distribution channel- they don’t rely on the distribution channel to have that relationship at all.


In my opinion the main yet-to-be-addressed-by-Ford-problem is: How can an assembly-line based company sell direct to the consumer (again-ignore distribution chain)? In our Bronco case (and I imagine Lightening)- each order is custom designed (bespoke in Rolls parlance).
Ford has shown that it cannot balance the two. Every day of a line is booked- with JIT inventory for a string of “one off” customized vehicles- mess that train up and you will need a custom manufacturing line just for completing “on wheels” inventory. I don’t think this has been or will be done. So, I don’t believe Ford is ready to fix the problem yet.

Bronco has been a cluster, but it was for a relaunch of a beloved badge. Imagine how heads will roll when the Lightening rollout is just as F’d up? Mess up the largest cash generator in the whole company? All because Ford started selling mass-customized products and is only good at making mass-produced ones.

That, my frustrated friends, is my piece. We can bitch about their incompetence- which after two years of the pandemic this is their failure not “beyond their control”- Ford cancelled purchase orders of the stuff they needed thinking they wouldn’t need it. It looks that Ford cancelled more of those than the rest. But if Ford has not figured a better way by Lightening, it would not be a stock to own long in your accounts.

 

[Bronco21fan]

Has no one read the news for the past 3 years?

I'd sayi feel for you/us, but really i don't, our lives are SO fantastic that we get to wait for something instead of getting shot at, dying of hunger, becoming extinct, etc. So you have longer to wait on a luxury BFD.
I've listened to people bitch the past 2 years about THE SAME THING, I'm over it. In the grand scheme of things you/we are not that important. Find happiness within yourselves, i wish that for all of you

Tony robbins is that you

 

[Spidurfiji]

The thing that I find the most upsetting is Ford's inability to learn.

They had Dirt Mountain 1.0 with the MIC top problem last summer.

It's like they never did a post-mortem on what what wrong there, identified a communication problem, and developed some way to address it *just in case* it happened again.

And this is Dirt Mountain 2.0 and their communication problems are--as far as I can tell--even WORSE the second time around.

Incredible.

The retrofit process for the modules is certainly a more daunting process. They cant communicate dates because they have no idea who and when. Ford should have said that day one. We wouldnt be happy but would be in a better spot. And now the hole is so big they probably cant do anything like issue us new VIN and put us back in line.

 

[markpilip]

The retrofit process for the modules is certainly a more daunting process. They cant communicate dates because they have no idea who and when. Ford should have said that day one. We wouldnt be happy but would be in a better spot. And now the hole is so big they probably cant do anything like issue us new VIN and put us back in line.

Exactly. If they just told the truth or, hell, anything, about what was going on, it would be better.

Ford is just a mass of incompetent dolts that can't learn from past mistakes.

 

[Spidurfiji]

Setting aside the obvious disappointment, I disagree on the statement that dealers, not the end user, should be deemed the “customer” of Ford. Legally, title to the manufactured good passes through the dealer- but that logic would indicate that P&G’s customers are its distrIbutors, not the parents buying the diapers. P&G’s and Ford’s relationships with the customers pull the orders through their distribution channel- they don’t rely on the distribution channel to have that relationship at all.


In my opinion the main yet-to-be-addressed-by-Ford-problem is: How can an assembly-line based company sell direct to the consumer (again-ignore distribution chain)? In our Bronco case (and I imagine Lightening)- each order is custom designed (bespoke in Rolls parlance).
Ford has shown that it cannot balance the two. Every day of a line is booked- with JIT inventory for a string of “one off” customized vehicles- mess that train up and you will need a custom manufacturing line just for completing “on wheels” inventory. I don’t think this has been or will be done. So, I don’t believe Ford is ready to fix the problem yet.

Bronco has been a cluster, but it was for a relaunch of a beloved badge. Imagine how heads will roll when the Lightening rollout is just as F’d up? Mess up the largest cash generator in the whole company? All because Ford started selling mass-customized products and is only good at making mass-produced ones.

That, my frustrated friends, is my piece. We can bitch about their incompetence- which after two years of the pandemic this is their failure not “beyond their control”- Ford cancelled purchase orders of the stuff they needed thinking they wouldn’t need it. It looks that Ford cancelled more of those than the rest. But if Ford has not figured a better way by Lightening, it would not be a stock to own long in your accounts.

All my wordy replies about how Ford doesnt have a process for “on wheels inventory” dont hold a candle to this post. Perfectly summarized.

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