In your mind, Bronco compares to what?

[MississippiMule]

Unless your kids are infants or toddlers, a 2-door is plenty truck. I’m married with two kids. Not sure how a less-expensive vehicle is “luxury money” over the higher-priced 4-door, but I suck at math.

I grew up hunting and and daily driving/riding 2-door SUVs until 4-doors became the norm in the mid-90s. I later had a 2-door Wrangler I got rid of when I had babies, but not because of inconvenience, but rather safety in a possible crash. All our cars were two-door until I was 12 (1984) and my mom got a full-size Ford van. My dad still drove 2-door vehicles until the late 90s.

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[MississippiMule]

Ah, yes. The Explorer. Or the 4-door Bronco II as it really was.

 

[Drunken Wisdom (END)]

I see a Bronco... End of story...

But I guess if you never owned a Bronco, well you wouldn't know. Will it live up to the name? That remains to be seen.

 

[MississippiMule]

Maybe it’s 4-door folks looking down their noses at those of us who will use a 2-door as our daily/only driver, not a “toy.” Or who can make do (and prefer) a Bronco that doesn’t cost $50k.

I am laughing at the notion that someone paying $50k for a vehicle thinks someone buying a 2-door Base for $28k is uppity.

 

[frinesi2]

FOUR DOORS FOR MORE SNORES

 

[Brongo]

FOUR DOORS FOR MORE SNORES

Technically speaking, that rhyme works for any number of doors. Versatile!

 

[frinesi2]

Technically speaking, that rhyme works for any number of doors. Versatile!

two doors for ... moo snores?

 

[mtap]

NOTHING...absolutely nothing!

 

[MorgansRun]

This

 

[Daktari]

funny, all my cars were 2 door stick shift up to my current 4 door auto Tacoma and I'll never go back to 2 doors unless I win the lottery and can afford something fast and flat from Italy or Sweden. I'm done with flip forward seats and all that jazz, but to each their own. I never even looked at the B&P for the 2door, just not my thing anymore. It'll be enough having to adjust to smaller cargo area (keeping the Taco though, it's 18 this year and I'll keep it until it dies, so cheap to maintain and register/insure).

Now for the original question in the thread, it compares to other cool off road vehicles like the Wrangler I would have bought if it wasn't for Covid or all the old Bronco/Range/Land rover/Toyota off roaders from old TV shows and movies (incidentally I called all those things "jeeps" as a kid in Germany).
Bronco looks cool and to me it suddenly makes the Wrangler look a bit outdated in some way (still love them, but you know my pick) and all the new *rovers look like any other boring SUV to me. 4Runner is ok, but dated. Bronco excites me even more than the Wrangler and doesn't have any of the things I really did not like (but was willing to accept) on the Rubicon I was gonna get. Either look like fun and excitement and possible adventures and even going to Safeway will be way more fun than ever before.

Luckily there are many choices for everyone :-D

 

[AcesandEights]

I think it looks like an International Scout, but in today's world it is comparable to a 4Runner or Wrangler.

 

[RiverRat001]

To me, the bronco feels like a 4-runner that was injected with a double dose of fun

 

[MississippiMule]

Every vehicle I’ve had since 1995 has had four doors except a Jeep Wrangler 2-door. Now that my kids are 11 and 13 and have long been fully ambulatory and not in child seats, I cannot WAIT to return to a 2-door. I, too, thought for a long time I’d never want to go back to a four-door. Until everyone had one.

If I were a single parent, maybe I’d see it differently. My wife drives a three-row, four-door vehicle. Popping the passenger seat forward in the new Bronco when I’m driving kids or full family won’t be a big deal. The 2-door Bronco will have more legroom up front and in the back than my 4Runner does. So, main difference is mild inconvenience re: doors and limited way-back space. My way-back stays full of CRAP currently. If we need to carry a bunch of luggage and the whole family, we will take the wife’s car.

When I was a kid riding in my parents’ COOL AS SHIT two-door cars such as a Bronco and a CJ-7, it never ONCE crossed my mind “oh, I hate climbing in like this.” What did cross my mind at all times was “Look at those lame sedans and wagons, and look how cool my parents are, and look how I still have a seat.”

We are a needier society now, with lost perspective of what is a “necessity.” Giant McMansions, giant loaded luxury “SUVs.” I was in this mindset some years back when I wished Jeep would make a 4-door Wrangler. Then they did, and I thought it looked like shit, and realized the long wheel base sucks a huge amount of the inherent Jeep fun factor out.

The 4-door Bronco looks WAY better, and I like it, I just don’t get the whole “necessity” argument.

 

[AcesandEights]

Actually not the car's fault...

This probably isn't true, and it started with the Bronco II.

You're right, Ford did recommend a lower tire pressure for the Explorer, contrary to Firestone's recommended pressure. Ford recommended lowering pressure to increase ride comfort, and to reduce rollover risk. -https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-aug-24-mn-9479-story.html Ford recommended a tire pressure almost 15% lower than the tire manufacturer recommended.

The Ford Bronco II had more than five times more rollover fatalities in 1987 than the Suzuki Samurai. "There were 43 Bronco II rollover fatalities in 1987, compared with eight for the Samurai..."

"...one in 500 Bronco II's ever produced was involved in a fatal rollover."

"Stability problems with Bronco II were noted during the design phase, as well as in the verification tests by 1981." and "For example, the J-turn test was canceled during the testing procedures by Ford officials "out of fear of killing or injuring one of its own drivers." -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Bronco_II

During Explorer stability testing, which Ford included a Bronco II and Chevy S10 as competing products, the Bronco II and Chevy S10 both passed the stability tests each run, whereas the Explorer demonstrated a rollover response in five out of twelve runs. Ford engineers had concerns about rollover stability and proposed four modifications to the vehicle prior to it coming out; however, the most impactful change(s) (widening the track) would have delayed production and were rejected. In addition, one of the constraints, one of the issues relative to stability, was the I-Beam suspension, which changed the center of gravity and track width as the suspension cycled. In subsequent years, Ford lengthened the vehicle and increased the track width and changed the suspension from I-Beam to SLA. Part of the issue appears to have been taking an SUV body and placing it on a truck chassis. Ford took an SUV body and placed it on a Ranger chassis and running gear.

"After the Explorer rolled over in company tests prior to production Ford decided to lower the suspension and remove air from the tires to 26 psi compared to 35 psi for the same tires on the Ranger." and "The Explorer was redesigned for the 2002 model year. The tire pressure was raised to 30 psi, it was widened by 2.5 inches, the suspension was lowered, and independent rear suspension and electronic stability control were added." -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy

Ford produced a vehicle that didn't do well in stability/rollover testing when compared to similar vehicles (competitors vehicles), but had a production schedule that wouldn't allow for significant changes once those issues were realized. They brought that vehicle to market and have since paid hundreds of millions to settle claims that substantiate their own test results. After millions of dollars in claims, and tens/hundreds of deaths, they made the changes their own engineers suggested from the beginning, namely track width. Stability testing did not involve any tire separation, and was based on the vehicle, not the tires.

At least that's my educated opinion.

 

[TJconvert2.7]

I see a cross between the OG Bronco and the Defender 90. I am a 2dr guy as my kids are getting older and we already have the family car situated (Volvo XC90).

That third steel blue d90 is pure sex.
Makes me wish Ford had that 4 seat rear seating option.
That must be a safety thing now, whiplash to the side now?

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