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That's fine pricing if you have money. Otherwise, if you're on a budget, just wait for salvaged hardtops off of wrecked Broncos.
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seems a little high !!! when jeep hard tops are 2500 to 3500
 

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There will be others. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy the first thing that pops up on the radar. Chill out.
 

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with all the discussion of tops, Ford induced most of us on this thread to buy a car they could build during the hardtop fiasco.
I think that Ford having encouraged order holders to switch to the soft top should be coming up with a plan to offer all those that switched, a hard top at a similar price to what it would have cost to order a dual top package from the factory.
My feelings exactly! Ford better do something for us.
 

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Odd. I’ve owned a 4 door BL since September and have driven 7k and have never had to raise my voice when speaking. Love my soft top.
even at 70 mph on highway?
When @Seanette and I test drove a soft-topped Wildtrak (which, according to the 2021 B&P wasn't supposed to exist, but it did), my dealer had already told me that holding out for a hard top would likely add a half a year to my wait, so I was intently interested in determining how the soft top would do as far as road noise. I'm a cranky old man that doesn't like excess noise.

Although this was in the Bay Area, I was able, on the freeway, to get up to about 80 MPH in short bursts, and was able to determine that the noise level was acceptable to me.

I've since read multiple accounts of the soft top and the hard top being compared, sound levels measures, and such, and it seems that the Ford/Webasto hard top, even if you're lucky enough to get one that isn't defective, doesn't end up being any quieter than the soft top. That pretty much cuts the heart out of my main reason for thinking I'd prefer the hard top. That out of the way, I'm just left with concerns over the long-term durability of the soft top, but it seems that in that area, the Ford/Webasto hard top is also failing to beat the soft top.

Patriot Fastbacks is looking very good to me, as they make a very significant selling point of how well-insulated and how quite their tops are.

There was some other company that recently announced here, its intent to make a Bronco roof, the name of which escapes me, which also seems to have a history of making J••p roofs, and makes a point of making them well-insulated and quiet. I wish I could now remember the name. Hopefully, some time after I actually have my Bronco itself, and am looking to buy a hard top for it, I'll be able to find it again.
 

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I've since read multiple accounts of the soft top and the hard top being compared, sound levels measures, and such, and it seems that the Ford/Webasto hard top, even if you're lucky enough to get one that isn't defective, doesn't end up being any quieter than the soft top. That pretty much cuts the heart out of my main reason for thinking I'd prefer the hard top. That out of the way, I'm just left with concerns over the long-term durability of the soft top, but it seems that in that area, the Ford/Webasto hard top is also failing to beat the soft top.
How can you make such a statement? Production Broncos with both the MIC top and soft top have been in owners hands at most just 7 months. Any fabric top will eventually need replacement. Companies like Bestop have been launched and grown into OEM suppliers because Jeep soft tops don't last forever.

I think despite all the misplaced hate for the MIC, it is quite premature to make statements the a plastic hardtop is not going to out last the fabric soft top just 7 months after production start.
 

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How can you make such a statement? Production Broncos with both the MIC top and soft top have been in owners hands at most just 7 months. Any fabric top will eventually need replacement. Companies like Bestop have been launched and grown into OEM suppliers because Jeep soft tops don't last forever.

I think despite all the misplaced hate for the MIC, it is quite premature to make statements the a plastic hardtop is not going to out last the fabric soft top just 7 months after production start.
Agreed. And 2 months in with minimal prep work on the gaskets and locating pins, mine is quiet as a mouse, doesn't leak after 80percent of its time being in the rain/snow.... Shows some snakeskin if you look hard enough but that's pretty uniform... Comes off easy, light... And I think looks damn good. To each their own I guess. I had the soft top for 7 months. It was fine, but not nearly this quiet nor look even close to as good with the wavy window that got scratched a to he'll just looking at them. 🙃
 

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How can you make such a statement? Production Broncos with both the MIC top and soft top have been in owners hands at most just 7 months. Any fabric top will eventually need replacement. Companies like Bestop have been launched and grown into OEM suppliers because Jeep soft tops don't last forever.

I think despite all the misplaced hate for the MIC, it is quite premature to make statements the a plastic hardtop is not going to out last the fabric soft top just 7 months after production start.
At at less than 7 months, we're already hearing of some of them failing. Even the 2.0 versions.
 

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When @Seanette and I test drove a soft-topped Wildtrak (which, according to the 2021 B&P wasn't supposed to exist, but it did), my dealer had already told me that holding out for a hard top would likely add a half a year to my wait, so I was intently interested in determining how the soft top would do as far as road noise. I'm a cranky old man that doesn't like excess noise.

Although this was in the Bay Area, I was able, on the freeway, to get up to about 80 MPH in short bursts, and was able to determine that the noise level was acceptable to me.

I've since read multiple accounts of the soft top and the hard top being compared, sound levels measures, and such, and it seems that the Ford/Webasto hard top, even if you're lucky enough to get one that isn't defective, doesn't end up being any quieter than the soft top. That pretty much cuts the heart out of my main reason for thinking I'd prefer the hard top. That out of the way, I'm just left with concerns over the long-term durability of the soft top, but it seems that in that area, the Ford/Webasto hard top is also failing to beat the soft top.

Patriot Fastbacks is looking very good to me, as they make a very significant selling point of how well-insulated and how quite their tops are.

There was some other company that recently announced here, its intent to make a Bronco roof, the name of which escapes me, which also seems to have a history of making J••p roofs, and makes a point of making them well-insulated and quiet. I wish I could now remember the name. Hopefully, some time after I actually have my Bronco itself, and am looking to buy a hard top for it, I'll be able to find it again.
Here is the name.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...ronco-in-to-be-measured-for-a-hard-top.36120/
 

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At at less than 7 months, we're already hearing of some of them failing. Even the 2.0 versions.
Long term "failing" how?

The only B6G complaints have been rattles and the normal OMG the edge sucks and is going to delaminate!!!
 

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There was some other company that recently announced here, its intent to make a Bronco roof, the name of which escapes me, which also seems to have a history of making J••p roofs, and makes a point of making them well-insulated and quiet. I wish I could now remember the name. Hopefully, some time after I actually have my Bronco itself, and am looking to buy a hard top for it, I'll be able to find it again.
Here is the name.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...ronco-in-to-be-measured-for-a-hard-top.36120/
Yes, that's the one I was trying to remember. Rally Tops. Based on this offering for the J•••, it looks like they will offer a better product than what @ADV Fiberglass is going to offer, perhaps not quite as good as Patriot Fastbacks' product looks like it will be, but at a much lower cost than either.
 

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If you read through the pages of this thread, what are people talking about? I'm reading a lively discussion filled with posts about the suspected price of the OEM top, the Patriot fastback top, the quality of the OEM MIC, the quality of the OEM soft top, the price of jeep tops, ect.

What are people NOT talking about? The ADV Bronco hardtop.

Interest in the ADV Bronco hardtop vanished the instant the price was announced. Poof! Now, everyone is just trying to figure out plan B.

So I just have to ask ADV Fiberglass; hey, is there any chance that you are considering sharpening your pricing pencil and coming back to the table with a new price?
 
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