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Installed the ProCal tune yesterday. It's OK but nothing amazing. Normal but is better, feels like it should have from stock and not dog slow, deliberately held back or under boosted. Sport mode shifts are definitely better without the aggressive down shift and rev on 5-4 and 4-3. You don't feel...

I was just going off this https://www.svtperformance.com/threads/500-hp-braptor-custom-tuning-from-5-star-tuning-and-hp-tuners.1217128/ They do have an S&B CAI on there also and some octane booster for the 500 wheel hp on the dyno.

I think 5Star were similar to ZFG with 500bhp at the wheels.

Anyone tried both tunes and have a view on which is 'better' or most power increase? Numbers look to be similar. Don't care about warranty and getting rid of start / stop would be great but not sure if the Whipple is worth the $300 extra.

For Whipple tune Lethal Performance / Palm Beach Dyno showing 296 bhp / 342 lb-ft stock (wheel), 5 Star showing 367bhp / 403 lb-ft stock (wheel) so something is off between the videos. PBD Whipple tune showing 347bhp / 395 lb-ft 5 Star Whipple tune showing 423bhp / 473 lb-ft (with Boostane)...

Thanks @Ducati1098 for the further info. So both ZFG and 5Star are making serious increases on 93 and much more than the ProCal tune. Looks like this is the way to go for me, along with an S&B CAI and Cobb intercooler.

Been waiting to see what power the ProCal tune was making before making a decision what tuner to go with but also trying to make sense of the various power numbers out there. Here's what I'm figuring from info available. Calculated values are with 24% drivetrain loss. Stock - 418 bhp (crank)...

The power increase does not seem to be much / any more than Whipple on 93 and is $500 more for the kit so this one does not make sense for me. It's the wife's daily so E30 / E50 is not really practical to get the extra power. The JB4 and VRTuned looked interesting but just seem to be turning...

I have 2023 Raptor and it just needs more power! Almost went for the Whipple tune, but I'm just not keen on flashing the ECU with a device I can't easily revert to stock. Now looking at JB4 and VRTuned piggyback options. Warranty not really a concern and I would still go Whipple (especially...

Bronco Raptor now at 1000 miles and wondering whether to get the Whipple tune or wait for the Ford Performance option, if / when it comes. Not sure how much better it may be than the Whipple, if at all?

I picked up a 2023 Raptor a few days back. Just 100 miles on it now but though I would just give it a quick try in sport mode. Engine feels much better and 'free" rather than being dumbed down in Normal mode but transmission seems terrible. 3-4 seemed to be a real harsh change, like slamming...

Interesting vehicle, had not heard about these, but they look like crap to me, like an old Land Rover. I don't deny the Bronco Raptor is now overpriced, since Ford lifted the pricing. At $68k plus options I think they were a bit of a bargain and Ford realized they had left money on the table...

I have a perfect spec (for me) Raptor to collect tomorrow at MSRP (98k) and a good trade number on my vehicle but I'm thinking of bailing as I see this market collapsing in the last few weeks. Feeling now like I need to be $4-5k under to feel I have decent deal and not going to watch the thing...

I don't see the dealers getting the premiums, a dealer in Mass has had a black Raptor over 4 months now. I offered him MSRP back then but they didn't want it and it is still sat there. Seems like many dealers have got used to being greedy with ADM and they don't want to let it go. The market has...

Been looking at buying a Raptor the last couple of months and just got serious about it. Key spec for me is Lux, Beadlocks, Carbon and Suede Seats. 2023 MSRP is $97850 on this spec there are enough of them around now in the Ohio, Michigan, PA area. I have 3 dealers all at sticker, and with a...